Shyane 1,677 Posted November 7, 2025 Share Posted November 7, 2025 11 hours ago, Zedd said: And the lyrics are I don't know, very watery - we were perfect till we weren't I realized why i feel like the lyrics are familiar. It copied Miley’s flower!!! “We were right till we weren’t” … Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheARTPOPball 963 Posted November 7, 2025 Share Posted November 7, 2025 (edited) 9 hours ago, Gorehound said: No offence to anyone but I just do not understand why people like her as a pop artist. This new song is beige as hell and the video is just as silly and unserious as expected. Teenage Dream was a decent album for the time but she's never grown beyond being an uninspired, glorified kids act. There's just nothing to her. No depth, no nuance, no style, no maturity or authenticity etc, with surface level emotion at best. A basic pop star for basic tastes. There are several songs post teenage dream that are mature, authentic, deep, By the grace of god (prism) wide awake (the complete confection) Chained to the rhythm (Witness) What makes a woman (smile) Even roar, in its campiness, was still an important message. Just to name a few. Its the audience who decides not to take them seriously. And this goes beyond her recent controversies. Katy might not be relatable to many people, but i dont think that immediately makes her inauthentic. She wasn’t one of the biggest popstars of the 2010s by mere coincidence. Edited November 7, 2025 by TheARTPOPball 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaGame 3,910 Posted November 7, 2025 Share Posted November 7, 2025 4 hours ago, Shyane said: I realized why i feel like the lyrics are familiar. It copied Miley’s flower!!! “We were right till we weren’t” … I mean these lyrics are basic af 𝚎𝚢𝚎𝚜 𝚛𝚘𝚕𝚕 𝚋𝚊𝚌𝚔 𝚒𝚗 𝚎𝚌𝚜𝚝𝚊𝚜𝚢 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Flower 5,373 Posted November 7, 2025 Share Posted November 7, 2025 4 hours ago, Shyane said: I realized why i feel like the lyrics are familiar. It copied Miley’s flower!!! “We were right till we weren’t” … Flowers is already a pretty basic pop song lyrics-wise Drop it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
southpaw773 3,796 Posted November 7, 2025 Share Posted November 7, 2025 Should be called earplugs 🙉 Like a poem said by a lady in red 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Gaga 2009 737 Posted November 7, 2025 Share Posted November 7, 2025 8 hours ago, elsamars said: TOTAL MAYHEM out March 2026 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meltedplastic 583 Posted November 8, 2025 Share Posted November 8, 2025 10 hours ago, GagaGame said: Yall use the word indie so wrong There’s two meanings of indie, independent music.. and then there’s the “indie” sound that came after the late 90s. Just like how Gaga has stuff that has punk vibes, but is not literally punk music.. you know? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustTea 6,522 Posted November 8, 2025 Share Posted November 8, 2025 Struggling to reach 1.5M views, her YouTube reign is SO over... Gaga can't relate 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctelus 2,928 Posted November 10, 2025 Share Posted November 10, 2025 On 11/8/2025 at 1:32 AM, JustTea said: her YouTube reign is SO over... her reign is over period... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorehound 4,877 Posted November 11, 2025 Share Posted November 11, 2025 (edited) On 11/7/2025 at 7:18 PM, TheARTPOPball said: There are several songs post teenage dream that are mature, authentic, deep, By the grace of god (prism) wide awake (the complete confection) Chained to the rhythm (Witness) What makes a woman (smile) Even roar, in its campiness, was still an important message. Just to name a few. Its the audience who decides not to take them seriously. And this goes beyond her recent controversies. Katy might not be relatable to many people, but i dont think that immediately makes her inauthentic. She wasn’t one of the biggest popstars of the 2010s by mere coincidence. Maybe so, but only very surface level at best. And to use the terms "mature, authentic and deep" are a real stretch concerning Katy Perry I'm sorry. Even her more "serious" songs are still quite vague and vapid, and often it's just her jumping on the band wagon of whatever topic is current and popular to make herself appear relevant. If you actually watch her interviews it's pretty obvious that half the time she hasn't got a clue what she's on about. "She wasn’t one of the biggest popstars of the 2010s by mere coincidence" - ye, because she was extremely well manufactured back then, with big, catchy, inoffensive and easily digestible pop hits 'written for her' and designed purely for chart success, and often pandering to a straight male audience with over sexualisation. And most of her aesthetic and themes were just ripped off other popular artists at the time (like Gaga for example), but dumbed down, cartoonized and basically baby-proofed to be as appealing to as larger audience as possible, and mostly on universal, easily relatable topics. And her appeal to the queer community is mainly from her camp overload, and shallow self-empowerment anthems which were already popular at the time, despite the contradiction of her writing a song mocking a guy for appearing gay, 'You're So Gay', a couple of years before... AKA inauthentic. It worked for her back then, but the very fact that she's become an irrelevant, out of touch flop over the past TEN years, incapable of showing any real artistic growth and maturity in that space of time, resulting in her feeling that she had no other option but to try and rehash her 2010s glory days pretty much confirms my point. If people take her work seriously, then it says a lot about the type of audience she attracts. But hey ho, one mans trash is another mans treasure I guess. Edited November 11, 2025 by Gorehound I'm fine, Ta Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheARTPOPball 963 Posted November 11, 2025 Share Posted November 11, 2025 6 hours ago, Gorehound said: Maybe so, but only very surface level at best. And to use the terms "mature, authentic and deep" are a real stretch concerning Katy Perry I'm sorry. Even her more "serious" songs are still quite vague and vapid, and often it's just her jumping on the band wagon of whatever topic is current and popular to make herself appear relevant. If you actually watch her interviews it's pretty obvious that half the time she hasn't got a clue what she's on about. "She wasn’t one of the biggest popstars of the 2010s by mere coincidence" - ye, because she was extremely well manufactured back then, with big, catchy, inoffensive and easily digestible pop hits 'written for her' and designed purely for chart success, and often pandering to a straight male audience with over sexualisation. And most of her aesthetic and themes were just ripped off other popular artists at the time (like Gaga for example), but dumbed down, cartoonized and basically baby-proofed to be as appealing to as larger audience as possible, and mostly on universal, easily relatable topics. And her appeal to the queer community is mainly from her camp overload, and shallow self-empowerment anthems which were already popular at the time, despite the contradiction of her writing a song mocking a guy for appearing gay, 'You're So Gay', a couple of years before... AKA inauthentic. It worked for her back then, but the very fact that she's become an irrelevant, out of touch flop over the past TEN years, incapable of showing any real artistic growth and maturity in that space of time, resulting in her feeling that she had no other option but to try and rehash her 2010s glory days pretty much confirms my point. If people take her work seriously, then it says a lot about the type of audience she attracts. But hey ho, one mans trash is another mans treasure I guess. It’s fair to say her recent work hasn’t hit the same cultural peak, but that doesn’t erase the influence or artistry she had in her prime. If anything, her “irrelevance” says more about how pop culture cycles through women in their 30s and 40s than about her actual talent or intentions. She definitely benefited from the pop machine, but so did nearly every single pop artist from her era, and even the majority of them now. Thats literally how the industry works. just because you don’t find her deeper songs relatable doesn't make them bad, inauthentic, or surface level. And I’m not sure why ur trying to imply her aesthetics were pulled from gaga lol. Gaga was still in her early career back then and borrowing, and referencing other artists in her work as well. Ur so gay is a product of its time, just as gaga having a song with a literal slur as the name, referring to Asian people as orient, or taylor using gay as in insult in her earlier music. Nobody thinks Katy is a gay icon lmao. Her earlier music appealed to the queer community bc it was fun, her image was intriguing at the time, and a lot of her music “ the one that got away” “mannequin” “thinking of you” “part of me” “firework” were messages people related to, or needed to hear at the time. Neither Katys “Firework” or Gaga’s “Born this Way” would have the same amount of impact in todays time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mother of Puppies 36,536 Posted November 11, 2025 Share Posted November 11, 2025 As an old ex Katycat I think the song is going into the right direction. I think it’s ok, a lot better than 143 which was mostly cringe af - it sounds like classic Katy but for that reason also a bit outdated. i hope she’ll go into that direction again but maybe with a new spin… smth fresher THEY CALL ME LADY MOP Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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