Alxjcgn 2,207 Posted October 28, 2025 Share Posted October 28, 2025 1 hour ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: Couldn’t agree more about the lack of leadership. The sections of her book where she talks about wanting to distance herself from Biden but caving to pressure from him personally are so damning, imo. I get that he basically gave her the nomination, but also like: he’s historically unpopular and now that you’re the nominee, you’re in the driver’s seat and it’s your responsibility to do what it takes the cross the finish line and imo I think she failed in that instance (and since then) to demonstrate leadership + ambition. I think she needs to step back into leadership positions that aren't immediately leading her to a presidential run... she clearly needs to establish herself apart from her past and she didn't succeed at that. I think she did a good job building excitement with the short time she had- but I personally was more interested in voting for her to try and prevent Trump from being elected. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagini 4,190 Posted October 28, 2025 Share Posted October 28, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, PartySick said: I still remain jaded. As a progressive myself, and all due respect to my fellow lefties, if the threat of Trump wasn't enough motivation to get them to vote for Kamala then they'll never vote correctly which makes them a worthless group of people to chase after. It's probably why Kamala's team shifted gears towards trying to peel off Trump's support. 'Cause while Trump was promising literal concentration camps for immigrants (something he has since delivered on), leftists were shouting at Kamala's rallies about something she had no power to change and the most similar platform to their demands that has ever hit a presidential ticket. These idiots are still out here protesting her book tour like...go protest outside the white house or something, you absolute cowards buying tickets to a chat with a private citizen that used to hold office just to yell and get kicked out in seconds changes literally nothing and you should be embarrassed. It doesn't matter how much you capitulate to their demands while remaining realistic and pragmatic, the goal posts always fly away from you when you approach them or one small mistake can cost you their vote entirely despite it all. They're fickle, flakey fools. Key word here is idiot. Legit everybody is a ****ing idiot in this country. Winning the presidency is a game of celebrity. Whoever can play that game, talk a good talk, and electrify the base, media, etc. will win. I don't think Kamala is that candidate. I think she's a smart woman, but nothing in her campaign indicated that she knew how to play celebrity at this large of a scale. Plus her advisors were completely out of touch offering awful advice. Edited October 28, 2025 by Nagini 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagini 4,190 Posted October 28, 2025 Share Posted October 28, 2025 We need the perfect celebrity 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 53,983 Posted October 28, 2025 Share Posted October 28, 2025 8 minutes ago, Nagini said: We need the perfect celebrity Poot 2028 We have forgotten our public MANNERS 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOT 3,614 Posted October 28, 2025 Share Posted October 28, 2025 Well if she ended up as the Democratic nominee she certainly COULD win (vote-rigging notwithstanding). She was defeated somewhat narrowly last year, so a swing against maga could see her win. But as of now October 2025 I wouldn't see her as the best candidate. New blood needed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy 14,092 Posted October 29, 2025 Share Posted October 29, 2025 1 hour ago, Morphine Prince said: Not saying her lack of leadership is right but If this country elected Trump a SECOND time over me I’d say “F*ck it” and let them have what they voted for Sure and I would agree generally but if you’re seeking highest office AGAIN with that demeanor…you don’t want to do it for the good of people, it’s an ego thing. Like she’s not some rando citizen, a lot of people were looking up to her for direction forward after the loss bc there’s *lives* at stake here. I get why she’s like f*ck all this (lmfao) but then like…retire from public office sis 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilia Malinin 2,958 Posted October 29, 2025 Share Posted October 29, 2025 i just want one presidential election where i don't have to vote for the lesser of two evils, is that too much to ask? everyone keeps saying "oh, he's back, he's back!" but the truth is i never left! 2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilMonst3r 5,687 Posted October 29, 2025 Share Posted October 29, 2025 (edited) “Come to Mama” has to be her new campaign song. No lie it encompasses everything AMERICA needs and has been going through in these times…. Edited October 29, 2025 by LilMonst3r Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 53,983 Posted October 29, 2025 Share Posted October 29, 2025 33 minutes ago, LilMonst3r said: “Come to Mama” has to be her new campaign song. No lie it encompasses everything AMERICA needs and has been going through in these times…. I mean, this song was literally performed at an HRC rally in 2016 and we all saw how that turned out lol We have forgotten our public MANNERS 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunkTheFunk 125,719 Posted October 29, 2025 Share Posted October 29, 2025 7 hours ago, Westerosi said: She received over 70 million votes. She'd be a fool to not run again. She got less votes than Biden did in 2020 so this is hardly a flex. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregJA 5,548 Posted October 29, 2025 Share Posted October 29, 2025 May run FROM office Mr. No Award Winner 2020 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 53,983 Posted October 29, 2025 Share Posted October 29, 2025 12 minutes ago, GregJA said: May run FROM office At least she can run (unlike a certain bloated turd that comes to mind). I don’t even like her, but Trump supporters have precisely no room to talk **** about her lmao We have forgotten our public MANNERS 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weed 79,034 Posted October 29, 2025 Share Posted October 29, 2025 Whoever the dem is I'm voting for but among the choices now I'm rooting for Newsom I need him to be my president after Flopald Trump Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controversiaga 16,338 Posted October 29, 2025 Share Posted October 29, 2025 I don’t think we should do that again. we need to find somebody new Pronounced like “Balenciaga” . Emphasis on the “Ga” 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 53,983 Posted October 29, 2025 Share Posted October 29, 2025 6 minutes ago, weed said: Whoever the dem is I'm voting for but among the choices now I'm rooting for Newsom I need him to be my president after Flopald Trump Ngl you couldn’t pay me to vote for Newsom in the primary We have forgotten our public MANNERS 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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