RAMROD 111,127 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ✧*:・゚ Love is 4 walls, a mysterious maze (*´艸`*) ♡♡♡ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elsamars 3,857 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 She’s so talented and she’s the top of her game Haters can stay being racists 1 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spookytanooki 1,051 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 Woah I didnt know she was actually involved in the songwriting, never mind having sole credit for lyrics. Gained a little more respect today if you don't have something nice to say, be mean Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas 27,866 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 (edited) 37 minutes ago, spookytanooki said: Woah I didnt know she was actually involved in the songwriting, never mind having sole credit for lyrics. Gained a little more respect today Don't think the tweets are 100% true though. For Partition in the tweet they name Beyonce as the only writer but the credits for the song on Wikipedia have 7 writers, Survivor appears to have 3 writers, Independant Women 4 writers... She has writing camps that I highly doubt that she attends considering how private she is, and artists sending her demos... Edited September 25 by Lucas 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spookytanooki 1,051 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 1 minute ago, Lucas said: Don't think the tweets are 100% true though. For Partition in the tweet they name Beyonce as the only writer but the credits for the song on Wikipedia have 7 writers I dont know what to do with my respect now 😕 if you don't have something nice to say, be mean Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas 27,866 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 (edited) 2 minutes ago, spookytanooki said: I dont know what to do with my respect now 😕 Well you can respect her as a performer but she doesn't write anything, she maybe changes a word or two and gets writing credits... Even adlibs can get you writing credits Edited September 25 by Lucas Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 119,143 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 I find it funny the Lose My Breath is heavily sampling this, like it's the major part of the song, without it, the song is something else completely. But they are all "writers" and "producers" getting money from something they found on the internet or whatever lol While these guys who actually played the instruments got nothing, maybe not even an acknowledgement. Many of the songs were co-written with Kelly, but Matthew always snatched the credits from her, so it's another shitty. Matthew was an asshole and treated the other girls like backdrops, but they were a big part of the creation of the songs, but only Bey got the credits and the money. BDay had writing camps and was recorded in a month, Deja Vu is the only song she's not credited as a writer, if u have writing camps.. you're not the main writer. So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PornoDanceFight 286 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 4 minutes ago, Lucas said: Don't think the tweets are 100% true though. For Partition in the tweet they name Beyonce as the only writer but the credits for the song on Wikipedia have 7 writers Afaik, writers and co-writers can be given credit for writing any part of the musical composition. It's the same reason why Gaga's producers say that she always writes her own stuff even though she's listed as a co-writer on like 96% of her catalog (she's also very generous giving those credits, imo). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas 27,866 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 3 minutes ago, ****oDanceFight said: Afaik, writers and co-writers can be given credit for writing any part of the musical composition. It's the same reason why Gaga's producers say that she always writes her own stuff even though she's listed as a co-writer on like 96% of her catalog (she's also very generous giving those credits, imo). Yeah but Beyonce has 60+ writers on her albums, writing camps that I highly doubt she attends, and artists sending her demos (like Miley for CC)... She's not a songwriter no matter how her fans lie to themselves that she writes her music Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastpopicon 37,239 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 honestly, who tf cares, every pop star has writers on the payroll. We are really fortunate that gaga writes most of her own stuff, that's not the norm usually. The melody that you choose can rescue you 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roughhouse Dandy 12,077 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Lucas said: Yeah but Beyonce has 60+ writers on her albums, writing camps that I highly doubt she attends, and artists sending her demos (like Miley for CC)... She's not a songwriter no matter how her fans lie to themselves that she writes her music The way her songs come together and why so many are credited in her projects is pretty well documented. Edited September 25 by Roughhouse Dandy This is my Hannah Montana™️ lipgloss. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LG2008 5,728 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 (edited) 1 hour ago, spookytanooki said: Woah I didnt know she was actually involved in the songwriting, never mind having sole credit for lyrics. Gained a little more respect today I thought it was very well known that she actually doesn't write anything... Even some songwriters said they have to give up writing credits or at least a substantial split to Beyoncé if they want their songs to be released by her... actually if they want to write for her to begin with lol A mess Edited September 25 by LG2008 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PornoDanceFight 286 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Lucas said: Yeah but Beyonce has 60+ writers on her albums, writing camps that I highly doubt she attends, and artists sending her demos (like Miley for CC)... She's not a songwriter no matter how her fans lie to themselves that she writes her music Some of those larger credits also come from (proper) sampling credits. I'm not saying that Beyonce is a singer/songwriter, but it does take talent to Frankenstein together the different demos and lyrics she's given and stitch them into a coherent composition. That's the one thing that I don't get regarding criticism of Beyonce's songwriting and artistry. Do we not think directors like Spielberg, Scorsese, Hitchcawk (I can't with the censor ), etc. aren't talented directors because they don't write all (if any) of their screenplays? Generally speaking (and not shading you in particular). Edited September 25 by PornoDanceFight 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roughhouse Dandy 12,077 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 30 minutes ago, spookytanooki said: I dont know what to do with my respect now 😕 Definitely look through her documentaries and see how and why her credits are the way they are instead of trusting what flops on here tell you ✨️ This is my Hannah Montana™️ lipgloss. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spookytanooki 1,051 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 6 minutes ago, Roughhouse Dandy said: Definitely look through her documentaries and see how and why her credits are the way they are instead of trusting what flops on here tell you ✨️ Im just gonna fade back into disappointment if you don't have something nice to say, be mean 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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