Beyonce didn’t want to do “Telephone”, because it was Techno-Pop

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5 hours ago, salty like sodium said:

 

I think the Britney Spears demo is probably closer to what it was before then: 

 

It's not THAT different, but you can still hear the changes between this and the final product for sure. The entire Beyoncé verse is notably missing and that had a totally different flow/vibe and production too.

It is interesting that Beyoncé allegedly was like "this isn't my sound". She's experimented with so many genres and sang so many things that weren't her sound here (including that Ed Sheeran duet and even the Megan Savage remix) so I wonder if she just changed her mindset or something.

 

yah i could hear this fitting in well on i am sasha fierce with only minor modifications 

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7 hours ago, HeavyCapiLover said:

You can tell bey did NOT want to lose her artistic identity by jumping on that electronic/dance pop wave in the early 2010's like so many other RnB/rock/hip hop mainstrean singers did at the time. She knew it would make her not be taken as seriously as an artist as she is now, and would just be seen as a commercial act, rather than a musical legend. She did modernize her sound with the album Sasha Fierce and then Run the world as the lead for 4 by a adding a pop electronc element to it, but always stayed true to her roots. She managed in a very clever way to artistically evolve through this era of music and stay relevant, as the mainstream sound changed drastically. Thats something that gaga could not do in the mid/late 2010s, instead she just said **** it and sang a complete different genre of music of what she was used to do.

Well Gaga's roots are electro dance really so what did you expect her to do?

Gaga also stayed true to herself

When it's Beyoncé doing country, it's revolutionary and staying true to herself, when it's Gaga, it's not being able to be authentic haha

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43 minutes ago, tlittlemonster said:

When it's Beyoncé doing country, it's revolutionary and staying true to herself, when it's Gaga, it's not being able to be authentic haha

Probably because Country is a white dominated genre.

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2 hours ago, tlittlemonster said:

Well Gaga's roots are electro dance really so what did you expect her to do?

Gaga also stayed true to herself

When it's Beyoncé doing country, it's revolutionary and staying true to herself, when it's Gaga, it's not being able to be authentic haha

I think it's also because Beyoncé didn't just do a country album, half the songs are hybrids between country and R&B and hip-hop, so that's probably what that person was staying. I don't think there's anything wrong with Gaga exploring different sounds and liking different genres, though: I love that she did a country-inspired album, a few jazz albums, and to me that's proof of her talent and versatility.

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10 hours ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

Not sure I’d really call it “techno pop” lol. Even Gaga’s part of the song has a 90s pop RNB flavor with a touch of disco. 

Disco yes, R&B nah. 

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I kinda get the point, Beyoncé was in her Sasha Fierce era and Telephone was kinda the opposite of what she was doing. 

Glad she took the challenge, Telephone is one of the most iconic pop collab ever.

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5 hours ago, AVeryGagaHolyDick said:

 

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i dont get how beyonces the villain in this she just didnt like the demo she heard and it didnt fit the direction she wanted to go. the britney demo is so far away from anything beyonce has ever done and it probably sounded a lot closer to that than what we're used to.

she eventually did do the song after it was tweaked to suit both her and gaga more which is what a collaboration should be no? about exchanging ideas and collaborating on a project so i dont see an issue

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I think its understandable. She knew she had tò sing in a way to sound different from gaga. And I Imagine She had a hard time Imagining how tò make It hers with the original Melody and beat. Then She did what She kinda Always does lol but It actually really worked as contrast.

The most astonishing fact Is how they wrap the whole thing in the same day, overseas in midst of other things im sure. Completely Crazy lives. These people are Just another level. Rodney Is a complete genius

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12 hours ago, PartySick said:

I think a lot of y'all are missing that the song's production was changed prior to the proper collab

Nah, there’s a video of Gaga and Darkchild producing it before Beyoncé got involved and the Britney demo, which shows that the production was largely the same. All Darkchild really says here is that Beyoncé probably didn’t hear herself on the verse as written (with the same melody as Gaga’s first verse) and so he switched up the production for Bey’s verse on the final track. I still wouldn’t really call the demo or original production “techno pop,” but it also doesn’t really matter that much, just thought it was funny that she called it that lol

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2 hours ago, lasagna said:

i dont get how beyonces the villain in this she just didnt like the demo she heard and it didnt fit the direction she wanted to go. the britney demo is so far away from anything beyonce has ever done and it probably sounded a lot closer to that than what we're used to.

she eventually did do the song after it was tweaked to suit both her and gaga more which is what a collaboration should be no? about exchanging ideas and collaborating on a project so i dont see an issue

Yeah, genuinely wild that people are trying to drag her for this lol. The dolls are BLOODTHIRSTY 

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14 hours ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

Not sure I’d really call it “techno pop” lol. Even Gaga’s part of the song has a 90s pop RNB flavor with a touch of disco. 

 

14 hours ago, 50 Ft Queenie said:

Yas Bey isnt musically educated  unless the song was v diff.. hey i would have also loved techo pop! 

Correct me if I’m wrong but doesn’t it’s say in the OP that the song was reworked so that Beyoncé would agree to do it? They’re not calling the song that exists technopop they’re calling the version they initially presented to her that. Also, DarkChild is not disagreeing. that’s what it was.

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14 hours ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

Not sure I’d really call it “techno pop” lol. Even Gaga’s part of the song has a 90s pop RNB flavor with a touch of disco. 

I think it was probably more hurried shorthand for like electronically dance-y

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14 hours ago, 50 Ft Queenie said:

Yas Bey isnt musically educated  unless the song was v diff.. hey i would have also loved techo pop! 

Oh we’re doing the beyonce uneducated thing again…yall need to stfu. It’s an offhand comment she’s not a producer but there’s literally no way in hell you sing the variety of what she sings without having a firm and clear musical education of some kind formal or informal. Y’all pretentious as hell

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Just now, Future Lovers said:

 

Correct me if I’m wrong but doesn’t it’s say in the OP that the song was reworked so that Beyoncé would agree to do it? They’re not calling the song that exists technopop they’re calling the version they initially presented to her that. Also, DarkChild is not disagreeing. that’s what it was.

But we also have heard what the production sounds like prior to Beyoncé’s involvement (footage of Gaga and Darkchild writing it together and Britney’s demo) and I still wouldn’t say it fits that description. I basically understood what Beyoncé said as meaning, “I don’t hear myself on the second verse as written” and so he reworked it to make it more of an RNB sound for that verse, but from what I’ve heard, the production for the remainder of the song is largely the same.