Google’s new AI in action (We’re cooked)

[Morphine Prince 105,015]

If we let it, AI will be the death of human artistry and culture when it comes to anything commercial.

This is so cool but so extremely dangerous as well. 

[Lord Mayhem 179]

19 minutes ago, hamartia said:

I genuinely can't even feign interest (or scorn tbh) for generative AI because to me it just feels so stupid and pathetic. It literally feels like someone jiggling keys in my face and going 'OMG isn't it amazing!!!???!! Aren't you impressed!???!!!!!' Watching people go gaga (sorry) for it feels like when my friends were amazed with cleverbot/smarterchild on AOL when we were kids until we got bored and moved on. No one will regulate this because it has to be financially successful to justify the amount of money being put into it, so we're going to spend years being bombarded with how necessary and groundbreaking it is for the average joe when really we don't need any form of it at all. 

I agree with the anti-AI crowd wholeheartedly and understand that these models were 'trained' on stolen work, but knowing that it will be primarily be used to create clickbait social media slop, scams, and p*rn of children and nonconsenting women makes being the voice of reason feel so pointless tbh (not that those things are low stakes, of course not!!! - I just mean it feels like trying to put the genie back in the bottle, kinda like walking around telling people that murder is bad)

No matter how desperately they try and bill it as a way to democratize art, it is so abundantly clear that this will be used to further exploit the exploited and further cut corners that are already being cut. It doesn't matter that it looks like sh*t, because it doesn't need to look good for what it will be used for in 99.9% of cases. Just absolutely dire stuff. 

Yup...companies are already replacing factory workers and in-store personnel with robots that dont care about getting paid, taking breaks, a lunch, get sick, vacation, medical benefits, dental, vision, 401k, life insurance, etc etc etc...

The "benefits" financially for business owners is astronomical and they don't care what that means for people for being out of work and becoming redundant

Even creative jobs aren't safe for much longer with how quickly AI is improving and becoming so realistic we almost can't tell the difference.

I give it 15 years...20 tops 

[Cavadour 2,309]

Ai is a tool. Mid 80's, when computers arrived, as graphic designer on my own working with a repro camera, cutter, glue, t-rule and set square, all of a sudden in a span of weeks I found myself out of work. Meanwhile some older people in the business were crying wolf or hell about how computers were about to change or even sink the market forever, the road was paved : adapt or die. Today with AI, it's another of those moments.

Now, there's nothing redeemable about humans. Greed will always prevail. But many people a gonna try and will often succed at creating great things with the new tool. Will the glass remain half full / half empty ? Let's wait and see while staring the danger straight in the eyes...

[Scarlet Witch 1,500]

The Butlerian Jihad can't come soon enough

[Shipper 13,002]

I think we should embrace AI. I am sure there was a generation that did not like the internet and abhorred children who grew up with devices and access to information from their fingertips. Look where we are now.

The fear that comes from using AI is that it isnt regulated right now. We are in that gray area in time where so many things are advancing and laws cannot keep up, and some industries and fields are getting taken advantage of. We should be advocating for better laws, and really send the decrepit old politicians away and get some new blood in the government that can better decide on these things than those who cannot even convert a PDF file.

Technology won't really go away. It is either you adapt or you sink. The best way is to go with it and to control it. We all know that prohibiting stuff and making things illegal does not work. People will do it still. Better to have it somehow regulated and controlled to prioritize human work and clearly label AI content.

Edited May 24 by Shipper

[hELXIG 42,855]

Are they also gonna legalise optional euthanasia because Idk how much longer I wanna go on tbh   I give it 5 years before the world is hellish and insufferable torture

[julz 6,693]

I know this stuff is scary and all, but imagine... what if someone decides to create music videos on some Gaga songs that that person feels that it should be a single  And the quality is so good 

I am worried about that because it would feel dishonest, or fake, but at the same time i would feel guilty that i will like it...i dont know if im making sense  I want quality yet true to Gaga - music videos... But again, i know people will have more freedom now in this aspect, and i should prepare myself for that. To differentiate yet still admire both sides... the authentic and fan-made.

If i were to create music videos... i will prepare my prompting for: Hair, ScheiBe, Replay, A-Yo, Gypsy, Sweet Sounds of Heaven, Big Girl Now, Sour Candy, HBDUWM, Speechless, VIY, SOAM...

[hELXIG 42,855]

RIP the internet 1990-2025. We had a good run. It was really fun sharing information, knowledge and humour with one another. Being connected as a species in ways we never had before. It was fun while it lasted

[hELXIG 42,855]

11 hours ago, Lord Mayhem said:

Sheesh...Google will be having a field day with the lawsuits coming their way from celebrities cuz no way this tech doesnt get abused...

Imagine people paying millions to an AI film studio and putting thousands out of work...

There are currently no legal regulations around AI because it's a totally new technology. Lawmarkers are flailing to put legislation in place but that takes a long time, and AI is so vast and growing to quickly that it makes it almost impossible for them to nail down any specific wording. We're currently in the Wild West of AI where anything goes and you can get away with anything you want

[hELXIG 42,855]

10 hours ago, Cavadour said:

Ai is a tool. Mid 80's, when computers arrived, as graphic designer on my own working with a repro camera, cutter, glue, t-rule and set square, all of a sudden in a span of weeks I found myself out of work. Meanwhile some older people in the business were crying wolf or hell about how computers were about to change or even sink the market forever, the road was paved : adapt or die. Today with AI, it's another of those moments.

Now, there's nothing redeemable about humans. Greed will always prevail. But many people a gonna try and will often succed at creating great things with the new tool. Will the glass remain half full / half empty ? Let's wait and see while staring the danger straight in the eyes...

8 hours ago, Shipper said:

I think we should embrace AI. I am sure there was a generation that did not like the internet and abhorred children who grew up with devices and access to information from their fingertips. Look where we are now.

The fear that comes from using AI is that it isnt regulated right now. We are in that gray area in time where so many things are advancing and laws cannot keep up, and some industries and fields are getting taken advantage of. We should be advocating for better laws, and really send the decrepit old politicians away and get some new blood in the government that can better decide on these things than those who cannot even convert a PDF file.

Technology won't really go away. It is either you adapt or you sink. The best way is to go with it and to control it. We all know that prohibiting stuff and making things illegal does not work. People will do it still. Better to have it somehow regulated and controlled to prioritize human work and clearly label AI content.

 

Also anyone saying 'they said the same about the internet, it's just a tool' you're missing the point. It's totally different in so many ways. The internet came along and was used to spread information very quickly, AI like the ones in this post are used solely to spread disinformation, to create lies. The internet helped people to spread their art to the world, AI is on a fast track to destroy every creative field and will effectively prevent artists from existing anymore. The quality of movies, music, TV shows, everything is going to decrease drastically. Obviously it's going to take a tonne of jobs away from people causing poverty. It's already massively contributing to lower education. AI is going to exacerbate security threats, danger, scamming, theft, propaganda (HUGE PROBLEM). You can clone a person's family member's voice now and use their voice to talk on phone calls in real time. That technology exists and it's only getting better by the ay. Evidence will no longer hold up in court anymore because anything can be generated, leading to a huge rise in abuse and crime. Let that sink in. Videos and photos of abuse and crime will no longer be able to be used in court. And on the flip side, the police in the US are already known for faking evidence.. now they can generate anything they want to lock away whoever they want. You will no longer be able to believe ANYTHING you see online. Stealing people's likenesses is a thing now, celebs are already being used in deepfake p*rn, being used to sell things, child p**n is being created with AI and guess what? The law doesn't know what to do with that because they aren't real children. On a less serious note there's the dead internet theory. Basically, everything becomes to overrun by bots that the internet becomes unuseable. We're starting to see it happen on Facebook. Millions of posts generated by image-generating AI bots, with thousands of comments under each one generated by AI-commenter bots. Then the image generating ones learn from the comments what they think the people want.. except the people are also bots.. and it slowly devolves into absolute nonsense. There are also massive environmental concerns. The existence of the internet didn't threaten absolutely everything in existence the way AI already is, just two years into it's infancy

AI in itself is a neutral tool, and a neutral tool is only as bad as the people who have it, and how they choose to use it. And as such, it contains MASSIVE potential to be used in the most evil ways you can think of. I'm not gonna lie, I've been enjoying playing around with AI myself, but it's for sure going to be the downfall of society the way we're going. We are NOT ready for this technology yet. If there are people who support freaks like Trump.. we are not ready for AI. Get ready 

[hELXIG 42,855]

5 hours ago, julz said:

I know this stuff is scary and all, but imagine... what if someone decides to create music videos on some Gaga songs that that person feels that it should be a single  And the quality is so good 

I am worried about that because it would feel dishonest, or fake, but at the same time i would feel guilty that i will like it...i dont know if im making sense  I want quality yet true to Gaga - music videos... But again, i know people will have more freedom now in this aspect, and i should prepare myself for that. To differentiate yet still admire both sides... the authentic and fan-made.

If i were to create music videos... i will prepare my prompting for: Hair, ScheiBe, Replay, A-Yo, Gypsy, Sweet Sounds of Heaven, Big Girl Now, Sour Candy, HBDUWM, Speechless, VIY, SOAM...

That's exactly the problem. People cant help themselves but want more. Once AI gets trained on Gaga and we start generating unlimited new songs, Gaga will be out of a job. We will actually kill her career for once and for all. AI will be the death of artists. It's extremely dangerous territory

[Kayi 2,624]

It must be accessible only for some companies, like the animation studios, video games developpers, institutions that need AI to make visualisation of some ideas... But not to the general public. 

I think that AI is a good tool but needs more ameliorations to be more ethical. Random ppl can generate harmful contents, some can do creative stuffs but why not testing ppl who want to use it before giving it to them ? 

[Kayi 2,624]

39 minutes ago, hELXIG said:

That's exactly the problem. People cant help themselves but want more. Once AI gets trained on Gaga and we start generating unlimited new songs, Gaga will be out of a job. We will actually kill her career for once and for all. AI will be the death of artists. It's extremely dangerous territory

Gaga is a "brand", famous artists have whole universe and persona that makes them worth to appreciate in addition to their musics.

I think that AI is for the moment, not very talented to produce good music with textured production and human-like voices.

I think that artists (mainstream and niche ones) will have to become more experimental to not be overshadowed by the AI. It might be a good thing ?

[hELXIG 42,855]

43 minutes ago, Kayi said:

Gaga is a "brand", famous artists have whole universe and persona that makes them worth to appreciate in addition to their musics.

I think that AI is for the moment, not very talented to produce good music with textured production and human-like voices.

I think that artists (mainstream and niche ones) will have to become more experimental to not be overshadowed by the AI. It might be a good thing ?

Generative AI has only been out for public access for less than 2 years now, and in just the past 6 months we've gotten it to this point..

 

In another year it will be indistinguishable to human-written music. And I guarantee you if they can monetise it, they will. So we're gonna start hearing AI music around soon. Once record labels realise they don't have to pay artists, humans, to create art, it's all over. Why would they fund an unreliable human, who needs to have life experiences and find the inspiration, and spend hours upon hours of expensive studio time, when they can just plug in a prompt and wait 10 minutes? Or take advantage of some struggling creative by giving them false promises of becoming an artist and having them just type out and refine prompts for minimum wage

Maybe Gaga's brand is strong enough to survive for a while considering she's one of the top global artists, and they will continue to see the value in funding her work, but there's no way they will be signing new artists ever again. We could be looking right now at the very last generation of musicians and artists that will have mainstream success and notoriety

And you mentioned that maybe it's a good thing for artists to be pushed and challenged, but I heavily disagree. Creating competition and insane metrics and standards to try and meet kills creativity. Artists need space to breathe and create, not competition and pressure

The ONLY thing I have been able to think of which could save music (and art in general. Movies, books, TV, paintings, etc) is a future where people place more value on 'human-made' art. Like a premium for something specifically because it's human-made. I actually can foresee a future where it becomes a status symbol for the rich and elite to flaunt their human-made art, while the rest of us get lifeless, recycled, AI junk

But I guess time will tell

[Sneaky Oliver 21,998]

This is insane, we’ve reached a time where we should value artists even more because whoever can resist the temptation to get “art” done way more easily and fast should be applauded 

I’m writing a novel (just for fun) and I get those intrusive thoughts very often that I could rewrite that paragraph better with AI, I can pass through that not-so-relevant part of the text or improve my plot with AI and I don’t have a deadline and I won’t be selling it, so can you imagine how tempting it is for someone who’s under pressure?