American cardinal Robert Francis Prevost elected as Pope Leo XIV

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18 minutes ago, lastpopicon said:

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The way my face cracked when I saw hes an American.. I hope he is somewhat progressive like the previous one was 

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2 hours ago, bionic said:

The Pope becoming American under Trump's America is questionable

I was thinking the exact same thing. Something is not right here.. and I say that as an American. Well, an American, who hates Trump, but this is just all too coincidental to not have him be involved. What are the odds the first ever American Pope is picked when Trump is president.

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14 minutes ago, GagasEnigma4 said:

I was thinking the exact same thing. Something is not right here.. and I say that as an American. Well, an American, who hates Trump, but this is just all too coincidental to not have him be involved. What are the odds the first ever American Pope is picked when Trump is president.

fr countries with much closer connections to Catholicism either historically or contemporaneously haven't had a Pope in hundreds of years (France 600 years, Britain 900 years, Portugal 800 years, Spain 500 years, Greece 1800 years, Holland 500 years) if ever but America gets one the moment Trump is president with a Catholic VP who killed the last Pope? it doesn't add up

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26 minutes ago, GagasEnigma4 said:

I was thinking the exact same thing. Something is not right here.. and I say that as an American. Well, an American, who hates Trump, but this is just all too coincidental to not have him be involved. What are the odds the first ever American Pope is picked when Trump is president.

Tell me you know nothing about the Vatican and conclave without telling me….

you really think that Orange disgrace could influence Cardinals from around the world or an institution such as CAtholic Church and state Of Vatican?

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29 minutes ago, GagasEnigma4 said:

I was thinking the exact same thing. Something is not right here.. and I say that as an American. Well, an American, who hates Trump, but this is just all too coincidental to not have him be involved. What are the odds the first ever American Pope is picked when Trump is president.

I mean there are actually conservative MAGA adjacent Cardinals to choose like Cardinal Burke if Trump had any bearing on Conclave. 

But the fact the Cardinal they picked is from a Liberal city, a citizen of Peru, and a long term open critic of Trump in his 1st and current term. 

Yeah lets end the conspiracies now about American pressure lol if any Conclave has turned around and said **** you. 

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18 minutes ago, bionic said:

fr countries with much closer connections to Catholicism either historically or contemporaneously haven't had a Pope in hundreds of years (France 600 years, Britain 900 years, Portugal 800 years, Spain 500 years, Greece 1800 years, Holland 500 years) if ever but America gets one the moment Trump is president with a Catholic VP who killed the last Pope? it doesn't add up

There's a very very good reason why Britain hasn't had a Pope in centuries. 

And if you look at how European nations have behaved around the Papacy over the history of European domination of the Vatican - you'd understand why the church hasn't been promoting them.

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He is Peruvian too 

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3 hours ago, Flippy said:

We’ll see how this goes… Pope Francis was great, who knows how this dude will do, being an American and all

they seemed to pick him specifically for how he differs from trump and maga on immigration on race, though. like the choice of an american here seems to be very very particular in having someone who is a bit more moderate but presents ideological difference to trump

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1 hour ago, bionic said:

fr countries with much closer connections to Catholicism either historically or contemporaneously haven't had a Pope in hundreds of years (France 600 years, Britain 900 years, Portugal 800 years, Spain 500 years, Greece 1800 years, Holland 500 years) if ever but America gets one the moment Trump is president with a Catholic VP who killed the last Pope? it doesn't add up

yes because the pope is a strategic leadership role so if there's long history for a country why would they need someone from there to boost their connection? His papacy was clearly chosen bc he is a bit more conservative (though not terribly so; pretty moderate tbh) than francis but presents clear ideological difference to trump on key trump issues like immigration. this was a strategic choice to demonstrate american leadership when we have none and arguably have worse than none tbh. You're reading a conspiracy into a situation that's actually very very strategic and political. The church is presently facing something of a crisis where there's declining church attendance but more religous fervor and rome's influence is slipping in america where evangelicism is basically THE most vocal religious unit atm. choosing this pope is meant to act as counterweight to this rise and try to restore a more normal reputation to catholicism in the U.S. (good luck lol)

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3 hours ago, PartySick said:

Why does it really matter what geriatric weirdo they put in charge of this cho'mo cult?  

The whole church should be dismantled. It's 2025.

It matters because the church isn’t going anywhere so our only hope is to see progressive church reformists like Francis (even more so than him now, which we didn’t necessarily get in him in some respects but he is in others, but the cardinals themselves are proving to be relatively progressive) ascend to the highest position so that the church can grow into a more progressive and accepting entity.

 

It will be a long, difficult process but unlike many other sects of Christianity, Catholicism’s structure actually makes it a possibility to change. I think the church should dissolve too. Not because I’m anti-religion (though I practice no religion), but because Catholicism has become a political entity. But that said you and I both know that isn’t going to happen in our lifetimes if ever. 

So we may as well put a vested interest in the church’s leader and where they guide the church if we’re not going to be able to see it dissolve. 

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1 hour ago, GagasEnigma4 said:

I was thinking the exact same thing. Something is not right here.. and I say that as an American. Well, an American, who hates Trump, but this is just all too coincidental to not have him be involved. What are the odds the first ever American Pope is picked when Trump is president.

 

1 hour ago, bionic said:

fr countries with much closer connections to Catholicism either historically or contemporaneously haven't had a Pope in hundreds of years (France 600 years, Britain 900 years, Portugal 800 years, Spain 500 years, Greece 1800 years, Holland 500 years) if ever but America gets one the moment Trump is president with a Catholic VP who killed the last Pope? it doesn't add up

I think you all maybe need to learn a little bit more about what the Pope actually does and what motivates the Conclave’s decision making process. There’s many good answers for you in this thread already. It was strategy. He is not a Trumpie type, especially on certain key issues, but he is someone that could in theory be able to navigate the natural relationship that a Pope has to have with the President. And that is important. They need someone that Trump can’t bully or control.  

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2 hours ago, OliviaRodrigoStan said:

It won't matter. Trump supports are moved by hatred, they will not care if he antagonizes the Pope, as long as he validates their hate, even if they're catholics.

Argentina's president called Pope Francis every name under the sun, quite literally. He called him a turd, an emissary of evil, etc, and his conservative supporters didn't care, even though Argentina is a catholic country. Conservatives don't actually care about christian values, and don't actually support the church's spiritual leader, if he doesn't validate their hateful views. 

If this Pope is anything like Francis, conservatives will be disrespecting him in a couple months, lol

You're probably right. Conservatives are spinless lunatics, here in the middle east spiritual leaders are appointed by the government to avoid escalations and uprisings and still when spiritual heads push for government backed agendas labeled as "reforms" which are almost always a fraction of a fraction of human rights other nations have come to consensus over decades ago, the conservatives would just say they're corrupting religion.

Both religion and conservatism are deeply rotten and fragile ideologies and i hope to see that the day both are extinguished. 

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well the predictions did say it was going to be the antichrist so.. 

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2 hours ago, lastpopicon said:

The external pressure being Sia.