howsAnnie 411 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 3 minutes ago, Sorcerer said: I think we should avoid intruding parasocially into Gaga's relationship like we're Swifties. Mind you, LG7 will never have existed without Michael. This! She's finally interacting with fans again and seems to feel more comfortable being close to the community and talking about her art. Let's not ruin it by acting intrusive. I would never go to, say, my 38 year old co-worker and berate her on her relationship, or tell her I think she gives her fiancé too much space in whatever aspect of *her* life. It would be considered very inappropriate for me to do so, unless maybe you're a first hand-witness to domestic abuse or sth. Now Gaga, on the other hand, is a complete stranger, and so is Michael. 99.9 % of us have never talked a single word to either of them. Making assumptions about their relationship or judging any aspect of it from afar is indeed parasocial behavior. 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panchecco 17,598 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 (edited) What Michael was really doing here was helping her stay grounded and not overthink. Michael is giving her a sense of stability that she probably never had before. I get what you are saying but just know that Gaga's ideas and sounds for her project always change and at the end of the idea we can't always have what we want. I think it's beautiful that she is sharing how Michael has become integral to this part of the process. Also this album has something for every single person that ever loved her music, probably more than any other of her past albums. Let's celebrate that and appreciate it! Edited March 13 by Panchecco 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadArchitect 969 Posted March 13 Author Share Posted March 13 22 minutes ago, Divine said: The thing about Monsters is that you cage Gaga to do something that will quench your dark concepts into life. It's not valid to assume "most fans like dark Gaga", as you are basing with self-influenced bias. Gaga is not limited to dark pop and edgy style. She is a chameleon in music. As long as she is happy, then let her be. We got Abracadabra, Diesease, Shadow of a Man as the "Gaga" you want. Don't be too greedy with your desires to control Gaga's choices just to quench your art direction preferences. I think Gaga is happy, and that's what matters. And oh let other people discover her music, music is for all not just limited to stans. it's not just "dark Gaga" i know Gaga in a very multifaceted individual, and that's what i love about her, and what i said most other fans love about her, that was not the point that i made, fans love her for what makes her different from anybody else in the pop music industry, the vanguardist and odd nature of her character, do u really think HBDUWM is a song that has anything in particular that most little monsters would love? it doesn't even quite sound like her, she's performing a familiar kind of character that she never in her career inhabited. Also im not seeking to contol her artistic choices, the point i was making was all about freeing her from it, as i feel there is also cages in the industry to make her do music that fits better to mainstream appeal and the current pop landscape, rather than her guts what she might've have in mind initially, but well never know i guess, things are as they are now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegidadedios 1,926 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 30 minutes ago, Sorcerer said: I think we should avoid intruding parasocially into Gaga's relationship This. Exactly this. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzkill 5,152 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 If he’s the executive producer he has saying in the process, and i’m sure if gaga didnt agree or understand the point he bring out she wouldnt pursue it. Thats being said, she’s a free woman. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controversiaga 10,980 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 1 hour ago, MadArchitect said: Hi, in Los Culturistas Podcast, where Bowen Yang is in too, it was recently released thank you!!! Pronounced like “Balenciaga” . Emphasis on the “Ga” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopMusicForever 726 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 I mean they are together and engaged. That’s how a couple works.. jeeez 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolkins 4,125 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 (edited) Part of me thinks that she has a reluctancy to say “this was all me” either through modesty, or fear of backlash. It‘s something that has been happening since like C2C at least - Tony, Mark, Bradley, Bloodpop, Tony again and now Micheal, it’s this reoccurring pattern of mentioning men having some say in create process. I’m not judging btw it’s just an observation. Edited March 13 by Bolkins Not the bore worms! 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightyriverz 2,591 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 girl just go to a bathhouse 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 10,752 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 I understand that fandom always descends this far for some. But seriously folks, calm down. We are in no position to make any form of educated guesses about Gaga & Michael's relationship. We see a tiny sliver of these people's worlds and its a tiny sliver that is curated and directly presented to us. We know nothing in the grand scheme. And I feel like a lot of these threads recently about Gaga & Michael's relationship are often people with little to no relationship experience or parasocial fans feeding into eachothers wildest imaginations about things. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornAsUnic0rn 2,070 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 9 minutes ago, Bolkins said: Part of me thinks that she has a reluctancy to say “this was all me” either through modesty, or fear of backlash. It‘s something that has been happening since like C2C at least - Tony, Mark, Bradley, Bloodpop, Tony again and now Micheal, it’s this reoccurring pattern of mentioning men having some say in create process. I’m not judging btw it’s just an observation. Even before that. For example RedOne said back in the day that she is MORE than generous giving others writing credits when all they did was change a few words. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 116,162 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 He's the executive producer of the album, wtf do u want him to do if not to suggest her the directions of the music? he invested money lol And if ya'll treat your partner as someone who "controls you" because they gave u a good advice about your life, then I guess u are a shitty partner So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nycboy 1,092 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 I’m sure there always was and always will be someone in her life who gives her advice as she makes new music. I understand the frustration of her coming off as if she’s curtailing her own creative impulses, but in reality I think she’s just telling the story of how the album came to be — and all her albums probably have similar stories. Plus Michael’s a credited producer now, he’s on her creative team so maybe just think of him as a member of the Haus? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink mochi 357 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Hmm I dunno, she's not our slave. Not our machine to produce the next conceptual high-art avant-garde album or whatever. Gaga, or any artist for that matter, will always be guided by which city they're in, relationships at the time, events in the world etc. etc. Are we gonna start wishing there would be a nuclear disaster so our pop stars would start making grunge metal music about nuclear fallout? To envision that some aspect of her life would or should change so her music would be different is crazy talk to me. She'll put out whatever the hell she wants, influenced by what, suggested by who, whatever, and we'll take it or leave it. I have no say in her process at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HermesG 1,594 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Send her a letter 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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