Trump ad promises a “Unified Reich”

[Roughhouse Dandy 13,610]

Just now, phantasmas said:

sorry youve been convinced u have to maintain the status quo 

Not sure how you even got there, but sure. A reach to the stars instead of actually addressing the points made. Have a good day 💜

[VOLANTIS 16,502]

Well then he would love Joe Biden. Make G3nocide Great Again. 

[VOLANTIS 16,502]

13 hours ago, PartySick said:

This is so crazy.

It's like being given two choices for dinner, a place of raw spinach and a literal bowl of diarrhea, and saying "well, these are both equally awful choices"

I would absolutely go with the raw bowl of spinach if it weren't playing an active role in a literal genocide. And before anyone goes spiraling with "he's doing the best he can" no he's not.

I wasn't on ggd during the holocaust so idk what the US president did at the time but it surely cannot be this??? 

[Rat Boy 43,832]

37 minutes ago, VOLANTIS said:

I would absolutely go with the raw bowl of spinach if it weren't playing an active role in a literal genocide. And before anyone goes spiraling with "he's doing the best he can" no he's not.

I wasn't on ggd during the holocaust so idk what the US president did at the time but it surely cannot be this??? 

So you think Trump would have behaved better than Biden if he was currently president?

[Dennis 8,391]

I can't believe we're like 5 months away from election day, and some liberal/leftists are still boasting about how they won't vote for Biden

Some people want a second Trump presidency so bad. You'll have it I guess

[Bronco 24,965]

34 minutes ago, VOLANTIS said:

I wasn't on ggd during the holocaust so idk what the US president did at the time but it surely cannot be this??? 

I mean there's evidence that the Allied powers knew of the Holocaust (although no evidence they knew every detail of every camp) as early as Dec 1942 of an estimated 2 million killed & 5 million at risk of it. War crimes indictments were being prepared as well. The allies even publicly spoke out against the slaughter in 1942. But reports about the camps started emerging through refugees & Resistance networks as early as the Final Solution was agreed upon really. There's an ongoing debate about whether or not the Allied powers were wrong to have not bombed the Concentration Camps they knew about. 

That said, in 1943 a UK minister opposed giving Jews special status as the Empire was already too full. And in the US, the State Department pushed back heavily against the President's envoy to the UN War Crimes Comission due to the Dept being dominated by anti-semites. And it was only because the Envoy went to the press over the scandal that the State Dept supported the Nuremberg trials. Jan Karski, a polish resistance member, met Roosevelt in 1943 and told him of the Warsaw Ghetto & camps - Roosevelt told him the Allies "shall win the war" but never commented on the treatment of the Jews. 

Prior to the Holocaust - when refugees fleeing Nazi persecution was rising year on year, America & almost all nations offered little to no assistance largely due to anti-semitism and varying other forms of bigotry such as anti-roma sentiment as well. And Roosevelt, knowing of the persecution of the Jews in this point did nothing, the US only got involved in the war due to Pearl Harbour essentially - nothing to do with the actions of Hitler. 

Arguably, Biden is doing 1% better at minimum due to him facilitating aid getting into Gaza, but let's be honest all of the current ongoing massacres in the world are demonstrating that nothing was learned from the horrors of the Holocaust. 

[Dennis 8,391]

Also for the pro-Palestinians thinking they're "punishing" Biden by sitting out, y'all been warned:

"Many political-fundraising experts, including Craig Holman, Public Citizen’s chief ethics lobbyist, believe Adelson will be Trump’s top patron in 2024, as she was in 2020. What will she expect in return? Beyond unconditional support for the Israel-Hamas war, one can assume she’ll press for the unfinished items of Trump’s Israel agenda from last term. Top of that list: Israel annexing the West Bank and the U.S. recognizing its sovereignty there.

This is not just unpopular — it’s illegal under international law. That is not Adelson’s primary concern. October 7 was “another kind of Holocaust,” she said in a recent speech. “We are people that cherish hope and not hatred, that will fight for what is right, even if it means fighting alone.”

Later that week, Adelson ate Shabbat dinner at Mar-a-Lago with Trump. In 2019, Adelson wrote, “Would it be too much to pray for a day when the Bible gets a ‘Book of Trump,’ much like it has a ‘Book of Esther’ celebrating the deliverance of the Jews from ancient Persia?” Now, in 2024, the two have unfinished Israel business from Trump’s presidency. Along with annexing the West Bank, the first Trump administration proposed recognizing Israeli settlers’ right to remain in homes on occupied lands. Also for Israel to remain an occupying force in any future Palestinian state. “I would take them at their word,” says Lara Friedman of the Foundation for Middle East Peace. They told us what they wanted to do in 2020. We should believe them, she thinks. 

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/miriam-adelson-trump-2024-campaign-donor-israel.html

 

[Dennis 8,391]

1 hour ago, VOLANTIS said:

I would absolutely go with the raw bowl of spinach if it weren't playing an active role in a literal genocide. And before anyone goes spiraling with "he's doing the best he can" no he's not.

I wasn't on ggd during the holocaust so idk what the US president did at the time but it surely cannot be this??? 

Equating the war in Gaza to the holocaust is crazy. Be for real, 6 million people perished by direct and deliberate starvation. In the last 3 months, the monthly deaths in Gaza have been averaging 1-2k as fighting subdued. Let's not blow things out of proportion here.

However bad you may think Israel is, the majority of food trucks entering Gaza are directly from Israeli territory. And Egypt recently closed Rafah Crossing as a way to put pressure on Israel which in my opinion is digusting and shows they don't care about civilians.

 

[VOLANTIS 16,502]

58 minutes ago, Rat Boy said:

So you think Trump would have behaved better than Biden if he was currently president?

Absolutely not. I never have and never will claim Trump is better than Biden. 

[VOLANTIS 16,502]

27 minutes ago, Dennis said:

Equating the war in Gaza to the holocaust is crazy. Be for real, 6 million people perished by direct and deliberate starvation. In the last 3 months, the monthly deaths in Gaza are averaging 1-2k as fighting subdued. Let's not blow things out of proportion here.

I guess a range of 1-2k is not enough deaths for Biden to step in yet I am sorry. 

[Dennis 8,391]

1 minute ago, VOLANTIS said:

I guess a range of 1-2k is not enough deaths for Biden to step in yet I am sorry. 

I'd take a president who puts pressure and significantly reduces casualties in Gaza than someone who'd give Israel the green light to do whatever they want.

The goal is permanent peace but you're not getting that with Trump.

 

[Ivy 13,719]

1 hour ago, VOLANTIS said:

I wasn't on ggd during the holocaust so idk what the US president did at the time but it surely cannot be this??? 

Here you go for that info

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/franklin-delano-roosevelt

It says key facts are:

1. President Franklin D. Roosevelt took significant, yet limited, action, in response to the persecution of Jews in Germany, the refugee crisis in the 1930s, and the “Final Solution.”

2. Roosevelt prioritized economic recovery from the Great Depression and victory in World War II above humanitarian crises overseas. There was very little public pressure from the American people or from the US Congress to take action to increase immigration or to rescue European Jews.

3. Roosevelt's legacy regarding the Holocaust remains controversial, both in history books and among the general public.

(copy from there)

[dopega 3,789]

I'm not an american so the up-coming election doesn't concern me too much but…

I'd like to remind some of you that you only have two candidates. It's unfortunate but you have to pick the one that's less bad. Not voting is not an option or an action of boycott, it's just another vote lost.