high culture 2,362 Posted May 21, 2024 Share Posted May 21, 2024 My vote is not going to be towards genocide, point blank period. I do understand and accept that may be hard to swallow for some people. If people are so concerned with democracy.. if 45% of people want Trump, 30% of people want Biden, and 25% want someone else... then democracy would say most people want Trump like not the ideal outcome, but Biden does not have my vote. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
high culture 2,362 Posted May 21, 2024 Share Posted May 21, 2024 The way yall calling Joe Biden "imperfect" when he's using our money to fund a genocide and is literally against the ICC calls for war crimes against Netanyahu is insanity. The blood is on your alls hands too. Not supporting genocide should not be controversial, and if the democrats want to win then they need a major policy shift. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl Jax 634 Posted May 21, 2024 Share Posted May 21, 2024 2 minutes ago, high culture said: The way yall calling Joe Biden "imperfect" when he's using our money to fund a genocide and is literally against the ICC calls for war crimes against Netanyahu is insanity. The blood is on your alls hands too. Not supporting genocide should not be controversial, and if the democrats want to win then they need a major policy shift. I'm just sad that yall have to pick between a man who can barely string a sentence together and a man who cant shut the f*** up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantasmas 12,366 Posted May 21, 2024 Share Posted May 21, 2024 3 hours ago, PartySick said: Ah, so here's our two choices: Choice #1) A man who, regrettably, is luke warm on the issue but... - Has previously agreed to funneling billions into developing Gaza and strengthening a two state solution - Has spent every day since October hounding Israeli leadership to limit civilian causalities in Gaza, even getting into shouting matches with Netanyahu and denouncing him on a global scale - Stopped US arms from being sent when it was discovered they were being used offensively instead of defensively as intended - Has been instrumental in securing humanitarian aid for Gazans, even with Israel's disgusting attempts to block it, even ordering the construction of a new port for US and UN aide to go directly into Gaza - Has sent his staff and intelligence teams to negotiate a ceasefire which has only failed because of Israel's disinterest in rescuing any surviving hostages - Halted the deportation of Palestinians living in the United States and has openly expressed an interest in taking in refugees, currently looking to allow US Palestinians to bring their families over from Gaza Choice #2) An accused 100+ time felon, a rapist, a traitor, a wannabe dictator, and a white supremacist who... - Moved the US/Israeli embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, signifying that Trump's America doesn't even recognize the existence of Palestine - Has referred to Gazans as terrorists and promised his supporters there will be no Palestinians in the United States, using his well known fear mongering to claim "your towns and villages will be accepting people from Gaza", getting thousands of red hat wearing whites to boo loudly - Has vowed to restore and expand the Muslim ban he put in place as president - Has open celebrated the police brutality pro-Gaza protestors have been subjected to across the US (which comes as no surprise considering he had police beat and teargas protesters to take a photo-op with a Bible) - Has enthusiastically supported Israel's campaign, saying they should be allowed to "clear out the cancer" - Has only offered one criticism of Israel's current actions and that is that they allow videos to come out of Gaza, saying they're "losing the PR war", but should still be allowed to finish what they started One of these men WILL be president next year. The choice is glaringly obvious to anyone with at least half a brain. https://apnews.com/article/israel-arms-transfer-congressional-oversight-biden-4de7597913abe75429f9ef48ace9bd88 im not voting for either but i'd rather deal with an open racist that lays his plans out in the open than one who plots behind my back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 52,684 Posted May 21, 2024 Share Posted May 21, 2024 45 minutes ago, high culture said: The way yall calling Joe Biden "imperfect" when he's using our money to fund a genocide and is literally against the ICC calls for war crimes against Netanyahu is insanity. The blood is on your alls hands too. Not supporting genocide should not be controversial, and if the democrats want to win then they need a major policy shift. Cool. You still using that soap box or…? We have forgotten our public MANNERS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
high culture 2,362 Posted May 21, 2024 Share Posted May 21, 2024 1 minute ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: Cool. You still using that soap box or…? If you want to speak down on people for speaking out against the systematic murder of an ethnic group, go ahead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantasmas 12,366 Posted May 21, 2024 Share Posted May 21, 2024 im sorry to break it to many of yall but Biden already lost 😭 and we the people lose regardless of which one of those buffoons wins its time to start bracing urself and start reinforcing your own communities again like we did before Dumpy won the 1st time maybe we'll have better choices in 2028 and hopefully many of those corrupt little 💩s will be ☠️ (by natural causes) by then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,654 Posted May 21, 2024 Author Share Posted May 21, 2024 56 minutes ago, phantasmas said: im sorry to break it to many of yall but Biden already lost 😭 and we the people lose regardless of which one of those buffoons wins its time to start bracing urself and start reinforcing your own communities again like we did before Dumpy won the 1st time maybe we'll have better choices in 2028 and hopefully many of those corrupt little 💩s will be ☠️ (by natural causes) by then Biden has not already lost. My God. The defeatist attitude among left leaning people is ridiculous. The one thing I admire about Republicans is the polls could say Biden is up 30 points and you can bet they’ll be first at the polls. All polls have Biden-Trump in the margin of error. Declaring one candidate has lost when not a single vote has been cast and we are 5+ months away is RIDICULOUS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantasmas 12,366 Posted May 21, 2024 Share Posted May 21, 2024 10 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: Biden has not already lost. My God. The defeatist attitude among left leaning people is ridiculous. The one thing I admire about Republicans is the polls could say Biden is up 30 points and you can bet they’ll be first at the polls. All polls have Biden-Trump in the margin of error. Declaring one candidate has lost when not a single vote has been cast and we are 5+ months away is RIDICULOUS its called having FORESIGHT and being able to plan accordingly but yeah ur right, theres still time for Biden to convince uncommitted voters! but hes not using that time to do so! many activist and community leaders and organizations are also no longer backing him and that should say a lot! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roughhouse Dandy 13,608 Posted May 21, 2024 Share Posted May 21, 2024 1 hour ago, phantasmas said: im sorry to break it to many of yall but Biden already lost 😭 and we the people lose regardless of which one of those buffoons wins maybe we'll have better choices in 2028 Bold of you to assume we'll have a choice in 2028 if Biden loses. This is my Hannah Montana™️ lipgloss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantasmas 12,366 Posted May 21, 2024 Share Posted May 21, 2024 23 minutes ago, Roughhouse Dandy said: Bold of you to assume we'll have a choice in 2028 if Biden loses. this fear mongering statement is so tired 🥱 we hear it every election cycle if the system can be that easily broken, then it should be replaced imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roughhouse Dandy 13,608 Posted May 21, 2024 Share Posted May 21, 2024 1 hour ago, phantasmas said: this fear mongering statement is so tired 🥱 we hear it every election cycle I'm not fear-mongering, I'm being realistic. Tired or not, it's the truth. I understand the "boy who cries wolf" thing, but look at the material. This was floated around when he first got into office: They sold this list in a Holocaust museum. Check off the signs he's covered since he became a political figure. The man has already floated the idea of seeking more than 2 terms, gave us a justification for why he would, has admitted he wants to be a dictator "for a day", obviously doesn't care about the will of the people, has no regard for the law, openly admires dictators, and encourages insurrectionists. Why do you think Project 2025 is his platform? Have you actually read through it? Y'all can scoff and cover your eyes if you want to, but we've seen this sh*t before and it didn't go well. Acting above it doesn't make you above it. I used to wonder how the events of the 30's/40's were allowed to happen, then I saw how easy and quickly people are willing to normalize literally anything as long as it's not directly impacting them negatively. This is my Hannah Montana™️ lipgloss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantasmas 12,366 Posted May 21, 2024 Share Posted May 21, 2024 14 minutes ago, Roughhouse Dandy said: I'm not fear-mongering, I'm being realistic. Tired or not, it's the truth. I understand the "boy who cries wolf" thing, but look at the material. This was floated around when he first got into office: They sold this list in a Holocaust museum. Check off the signs he's covered since he became a political figure. The man has already floated the idea of seeking more than 2 terms, gave us a justification for why he would, has admitted he wants to be a dictator "for a day", obviously doesn't care about the will of the people, has no regard for the law, openly admires dictators, and encourages insurrectionists. Why do you think Project 2025 is his platform? Have you actually read through it? Y'all can scoff and cover your eyes if you want to, but we've seen this sh*t before and it didn't go well. Acting above it doesn't make you above it. but Biden can actually check some of those off too (and any US president tbqh) 😭😭 disdain for human rights - (see atrocities being committed under his current admin) identification of enemies as a unifying cause - (see anti-police activists and water/forest protectors that have been arrested being labeled terrorists under his DOJ) supremacy of military - (seems self evident) corporate power protected - (also self evident) (but just see how much corps are protected here knowing they use child labor here AND abroad) idk man i think we should stop living in fear of these people and have some agency over ourselves instead of being coerced into an abusive relationship (again) that is this dem/repub system Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roughhouse Dandy 13,608 Posted May 21, 2024 Share Posted May 21, 2024 16 hours ago, phantasmas said: but Biden can actually check some of those off too (and any US president tbqh) 😭😭 disdain for human rights - (see atrocities being committed under his current admin) identification of enemies as a unifying cause - (see anti-police activists and water/forest protectors that have been arrested being labeled terrorists under his DOJ) supremacy of military - (seems self evident) corporate power protected - (also self evident) idk man i think we should stop living in fear of these people and have some agency over ourselves instead of being coerced into an abusive relationship that is this dem/repub system (again) I agree with a lot of what you're saying here, but that doesn't change where we are now. Biden is also the only candidate with a chance of winning who can even bring himself to say he'll commit to a peaceful transfer of power whereas Trump has declined to on several occasions. That's a very big difference. I've spoken out against the 2 party system again and again and advocate for a better system but that's also not changing the situation we're in now. Calling out the very real threat we're in isn't living in fear. Having agency over ourselves in this case is speaking out and supporting the candidate that isn't promoting Project 2025. This is my Hannah Montana™️ lipgloss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantasmas 12,366 Posted May 21, 2024 Share Posted May 21, 2024 7 minutes ago, Roughhouse Dandy said: I agree with a lot of what you're saying here, but that doesn't change where we are now. Biden is also the only candidate with a chance of winning who can even bring himself to say he'll commit to a peaceful transfer of power whereas Trump has denied to on several occasions. That's a very big difference. I've spoken out against the 2 party system again and again and advocate for a better system but that's also not changing the situation we're in now. Calling out the very real threat we're in isn't living in fear. Having agency over ourselves in this case is speaking out and supporting the candidate that isn't promoting Project 2025. sorry youve been convinced u have to maintain the status quo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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