ALittleMonsta 1,529 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 7 minutes ago, Meat said: Are they? Or are they just hiding it to save face in liberal circles. I’ve seen countless people on twitter support Hamas today. do we count twitter? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat 18,962 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, faysalaaa1 said: You can criticize the Middle East for being anti gay and sexist, and that we are not advanced, but thats not a justification for foreigners to occupy us. Israel being advanced is invalid information when it comes to their occupation and war crimes. And what’s the justification for Arabs that have occupied Africa and India for centuries in the past? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poker 3,770 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 19 minutes ago, ALittleMonsta said: most pro-palestine people are against hamas thankfully I’ve seen pro-Palestine people CELEBRATING on social media or justifying that it is time they acted this way. I’m disgusted. Kindness rules all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
faysalaaa 5,336 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 13 hours ago, Bazaar said: Show me one video of Israeli soldiers spitting and celebrating on a dead Palestinian woman’s body OR going into Gaza and kidnapping children/women/civilians. I’m waiting I said they do it in a more civilized way, but the end result is the same. There is countless of videos online showing Israeli war crimes on children and women. One of the biggest example is the Sabra and Shatila massacre where they killed 2000 of mostly women and children and raping them. Or American soldiers bombing random children and women and laughing about it. Or American soldiers raping thousand of prisoners in Abu Ghraib torture camp. Or how they take children into concentration camps like Guantanamo Bay. Please just google And whenever someone tried to expose this, the American media and people attack the whistleblower, and anyone that reports on it gets a life sentence in prison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
faysalaaa 5,336 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 9 minutes ago, Meat said: And what’s the justification for Arabs that have occupied Africa and India for centuries in the past? No justification at all, im against all of it.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolev 867 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Israeli red-cross (MDA) reporting now 150+ casualties and 1100+ injured. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALittleMonsta 1,529 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, Poker said: I’ve seen pro-Palestine people CELEBRATING on social media or justifying that it is time they acted this way. I’m disgusted. oh well i guess im really wrong, i was wrongfully assuming based on personal conversations Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
faysalaaa 5,336 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 6 hours ago, Future Lovers said: This whole situation is going to perfectly demonstrate the complete lack of nuance that exists on this subject. It's all been made to be black and white when none of it is. The root cause of all of this is the nation of Israel's--the masterminds and leaders behind that is--decades long occupation of territory they've no right to. That is a fact, and that fact won't change. It is also a fact that this action on the part of Hamas is stepping over a line in a big and indisputable way. Regardless of the nation they hail from, at the end of the day, Hamas is still a terrorist organization. It just so happens they fight on behalf of a nation that needs defending, but they are still terrorists. I don't think it's okay what's being done to innocent citizens. I don't think the actions of Hamas are something to be celebrated or praised. Hamas will get their day of reckoning. They're oppressing Palestinians as well. They're no heroes to Palestine, and anyone who tries to frame them as such is overly blinded by their feelings toward Israel's atrocities. As with many conflicts around the world, you're going to find that both sides have indefensible actions to atone for. But you will also find that one side is the oppressed and one side is the oppressor. The nation of Israel's government, and the agencies who carry out the evil deeds the government dictates is the latter. Hamas is doing wrong, and i don't think many will argue otherwise. Israel is still the aggressor and give out as bad or worse as they receive, unprovoked, and on citizens same as this. Both statements can be and are true. The propaganda that will stem from this will try and say otherwise. The use of unequal counter action will be justified with a twisting of history and facts. But none of that changes the facts as they stand. All in all, I express my sympathies to those who're in the middle of something they don't deserve. Innocent people on either side of this do not deserve it, especially when so many of them share the common dream of this ending. I wish it could end sooner, and more importantly I wish it could end peacefully. I'm thinking of anyone here who may be from Israel and anyone here who may be from Palestine. I'm sorry that those in charge think so little of you and your rights to safety and prosperity. i'm sorry you have to get used as pawns in these kinds of games. Hopefully someday, we can see this brought to an end and everyone who has to answer for what they've done is made to. THIS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolev 867 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 missile alerts happening in tel aviv & area now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
faysalaaa 5,336 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 I feel like this war will lead to more Arabic / Muslim countries allying and standing with Israel, and Palestinians will lose more rights. Most Arabic country already allied themselves with Israel without any negotiations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat 18,962 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 11 minutes ago, faysalaaa1 said: I feel like this war will lead to more Arabic / Muslim countries allying and standing with Israel, and Palestinians will lose more rights. Most Arabic country already allied themselves with Israel without any negotiations. I agree. I think Saudi Arabia will definitely stand with Israel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roughhouse Dandy 13,614 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 3 hours ago, LoliLux said: Horrifying news. There must be a ceasefire and people must work on peace. Lesbians, gays, trans people are being slaughtered, persecuted, denied human rights, women are being treated as second-class humans in Muslim countries in the Middle East, there is massive censorship and no free Internet in most Muslim countries, most of you would have a very miserable life in a typical Muslim country as a Gaga fan, and some of you, despite all of this, advocate the handover of disputed Israelian territory to a Muslim country, where LGBT people would experience hell, which is beyond my comprehension and scandalous. Instead of acknowledging this, some of you choose to ignore this. Israel is the most advanced country in the Middle East. Here is a user called @InTheCloset who writes about his daily life in a hardcore Muslim country, very shocking, and he is very unhappy about it. Maybe you should read some of his topics, to get a glimpse what you wish for. Israel may be very nationalist now and nationalism is bad when it comes at the expanse of others, but some of you act as if there were no hardcore nationalist Muslim countries, while in fact, the other surrounding Muslim countries are even more hardcore nationalist than Israel, but again some of you chose to ignore this. Some of you say "free Palestine", do you even know what kind of freedom this would be? Would you really want to live in such a country? This would be the freedom of the new rulers to make women second-class and slaughter LGBT people. Shame on some of you. Some Muslim nations are religious and intolerant of queer people, so you decide the only rational decision is to defend essentially an open air prison? They're mean to the gays so apartheid is a good thing actually? And you're still trying to clutch your pearls over brutality?? Give me a break. This is my Hannah Montana™️ lipgloss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heygurlhi 3,200 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 poor palestinians Israel will go genocidal over this Ignore me i drink Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roughhouse Dandy 13,614 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 28 minutes ago, heygurlhi said: poor palestinians Israel will go genocidal over this They already are. It's a sh*tshow all around. This is my Hannah Montana™️ lipgloss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat 18,962 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 33 minutes ago, Roughhouse Dandy said: Some Muslim nations are religious and intolerant of queer people, so you decide the only rational decision is to defend essentially an open air prison? They're mean to the gays so apartheid is a good thing actually? And you're still trying to clutch your pearls over brutality?? Give me a break. Is “Mean to the gays” euphemism for “They kill gays just for existing”? And not you saying “some Muslim nations” as if any of them are tolerant in any shape or form. What a joke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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