faysalaaa 5,336 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
faysalaaa 5,336 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 12 minutes ago, Melech said: Then Palestinian nationalism should also be labels as Nazi ideology (according to your flawed logic) Palestinians dont care about your DNA, Palestinians are like most countries, they have a healthy level of nationalism. Zionism on the other hands base it on DNA of your mother and religion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronlop 6,882 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Just now, PartySick said: Sounds pretty condemned to me. Don't confuse explaining the emotions or reasons with justifying the actions. Everyone needs to take a breath and stop going at each others' throats so enthusiastically. That is not condemning. Saying buzz words like "it's never okay to kill civilians" and in the same breath saying that Hamas' actions against innocent civilians were an act of self-defense cannot count as condemning. This user holds a dangerous and insensitive point of view, which potentially could harm other members in this forum who were personally affected by this tragedy. Saying Israel is at fault but not Hamas, who are directly responsible for the slaughtering of over 300 innocent civilians, are at fault should tell you enough about this user's point of view. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
faysalaaa 5,336 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 33 minutes ago, Ronlop said: Right now I only see Hamas supporters celebrating the slaughter of 300 innocent people. Not the other way around. None of them are celebrating women being killed, they are celebrating Palestinians escaping the concentration camp jail they were trapped in for 7 decades. Stop simplifying this to them celebrating women being killed! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Ricky 9,089 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Can anyone explain me, being really serious as a non-believer (atheïst). Why are believers (especially muslim, because it's literally everytime when something big happens, good or bad) taking everything with *input any Gods name*, when they are celebrating the death of innocents? Or *insert any gods name* will take justice for their actions. It's a believe yes, but let's be honest, there's no one other than humans themselves taking the justice. Crossfit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
faysalaaa 5,336 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mr Ricky said: Can anyone explain me, being really serious as a non-believer (atheïst). Why are believers (especially muslim, because it's literally everytime when something big happens, good or bad) taking everything with *input any Gods name*, when they are celebrating the death of innocents? Or *insert any gods name* will take justice for their actions. It's a believe yes, but let's be honest, there's no one other than humans themselves taking the justice. Using God helps justify your crimes to yourself and others, and makes you look more moral. Its basically a way to justify your their crime. If they do it without Gods name, they will be seen as criminals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambino 24,321 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, Ronlop said: That is not condemning. Saying buzz words like "it's never okay to kill civilians" and in the same breath saying that Hamas' actions against innocent civilians were an act of self-defense cannot count as condemning. This user holds a dangerous and insensitive point of view, which potentially could harm other members in this forum who were personally affected by this tragedy. Saying Israel is at fault but not Hamas, who are directly responsible for the slaughtering of over 300 innocent civilians, are at fault should tell you enough about this user's point of view. Oh yeah? I'm also emotionally affected by this, why is nobody saying something about it? Y'all want to utter the words exactly like you want when I repeated said killing civilians is wrong but what's happening is something everyone saw coming one way or another regardless of the way it happened. Can you imagine living under horrendous conditions and then people here come accuse of stuff because they couldn't get it? Yalla!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronlop 6,882 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Just now, faysalaaa1 said: None of them are celebrating women being killed, they are celebrating Palestinians escaping the concentration camp jail they were trapped in for 7 decades. Stop simplifying this to them celebrating women being killed! I would argue that even if you are to be celebrating an escape from jail, you would be sensitive enough to know not to celebrate it in this scale when the escape involved the slaughter of 300 innocent civilians. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambino 24,321 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 19 minutes ago, PartySick said: Sounds pretty condemned to me. Don't confuse explaining the emotions or reasons with justifying the actions. Everyone needs to take a breath and stop going at each others' throats so enthusiastically. Thank you!! Nobody wants to understand what I'm going through, and how hard this is on everyone involved, mainly Palestinians because Israel is going genocide the sh-t out of them over this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Ricky 9,089 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, faysalaaa1 said: None of them are celebrating women being killed, they are celebrating Palestinians escaping the concentration camp jail they were trapped in for 7 decades. Stop simplifying this to them celebrating women being killed! But are they really free though? I mean, it's way too soon to celebrate things. When actually it might get worse for the innocent lives who are now trapped in war (in even a worse moment than it was) Crossfit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronlop 6,882 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Just now, Bambino said: Oh yeah? I'm also emotionally affected by this, why is nobody saying something about it? Y'all want to utter the words exactly like you want when I repeated said killing civilians is wrong but what's happening is something everyone saw coming one way or another regardless of the way it happened. Can you imagine living under horrendous conditions and then people here come accuse of stuff because they couldn't get it? Yalla!!!! No one was talking about you though. If you want to talk about yourself, you can open a thread about it sharing what you go through. We were talking about the tragedy that occurred today in Israel and the people who have lost their loved ones due to Hamas' terrorism. Saying stuff like "Hamas did it as self-defence" is not only inaccurate but also could hurt members here who were personally affected by this tragic event. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
faysalaaa 5,336 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mr Ricky said: But are they really free though? I mean, it's way too soon to celebrate things. When actually it might get worse for the innocent lives who are now trapped in war (in even a worse moment than it was) Well its not really a celebration, its just a way to show support Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
faysalaaa 5,336 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 8 minutes ago, Ronlop said: I would argue that even if you are to be celebrating an escape from jail, you would be sensitive enough to know not to celebrate it in this scale when the escape involved the slaughter of 300 innocent civilians. So Black Lives Matter was a good cause, but there was alot of looting all over the country that effected alot of small businesses. Does this mean its insensitive to show support for BLM while people are suffering from looting? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambino 24,321 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Ronlop said: No one was talking about you though. If you want to talk about yourself, you can open a thread about it sharing what you go through. We were talking about the tragedy that occurred today in Israel and the people who have lost their loved ones due to Hamas' terrorism. Saying stuff like "Hamas did it as self-defence" is not only inaccurate but also could hurt members here who were personally affected by this tragic event. Quote me when you stop acting like a twisted troll. Israel has just killed more than 200 Palestinians in response, do you have anything to say about that? Or Israel is defending itself? And by the way, not one of my response included that statement. I keep repeating that Palestinians have the right to defend themselves. PALESTINIANS. Not Hamas. I see Palestinians as one group. Unity. If I want to say Hamas, I would have, but you, being the twisted troll you are, took it the way you want to make me look like a cold bitch who celebrates killing of civilians when I haven't literally uttered one word about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronlop 6,882 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Just now, faysalaaa1 said: So Black Lives Matter was a good cause, but there was alot of looting all over the country that effected alot of small businesses. Does this mean its insensitive to show support for BLM while people are suffering from looting? Because slaughtering innocent civilians and looting from small businesses are the same thing...?? Weird comparison to make. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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