JohnnyVersace 8,808 Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 *double post* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 I'm more of a very casual fan of her now. I do not follow her on social media and generally do not care what she is up to, unless it is related to new music. I have no interest in her makeup, or her movies, or what brand partnerships she is doing. I just care about her releasing new music. I do wish her the best in whatever she is doing that isn't related to music, though. And I am still very engrained in the fanbase. It's been a go to place for me since The Fame, when I was a very hardcore stan and used to follow everything I could about her. I do not know if it was anything she did or didn't do, or if it is just something that would have happened even if she was on album 12 right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smother Em Eh 6,959 Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 I do 100% get what you are saying and while I do agree with a lot of what you said, you have to know. She’s not in her early 20’s anymore and she doesn’t have much to prove anymore. Also she’s changed and so have a lot of us as well which is a part of life. She still has a huge remarkable legacy and she WILL go down as one of the greatest musicians to have ever lived. She has made a profound mark in the music, fashion and philanthropy scene and that won’t go unnoticed. Get Applause & G.U.Y to 1B views! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaaaas Gaga 829 Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 She's not 23 anymore, she's 37. She's at a very different stage in her life and clearly wants some privacy. I always find it shocking how this fanbase demand from her, as if she hasn't given and sacrificed so much over the course of her career. I think Taylor Swift has set the standards unreasonably high in terms of fan interaction and that is actually having a detrimental effect on other artists and their fanbases are wanting/expecting the same. My advice is for people to stop searching for happiness through Gaga, and instead search for this within yourself or your closer community of family and friends. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 106,088 Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 LM are just lazy, it's not Gaga's fault, she has the most not loyal fans ever, they barely do 1% of what the swifties do in every launch. Heck, they support other artists more than they support Gaga. His fart felt like a kiss Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimecia 6,025 Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 I've seen this argument many times : "If you have issues and are unhappy with Gaga, then why are you here - why don't you unstan?" Well, I believe we "Little Monsters", longtime and hardcore fans have created a community with each others over the years. It's not as simple as "just unstanning". People interacting on this site aren't "whining" or complaining for no reason. Nor do they have "no life" or no reasons to be here for voicing negative opinions. These people might still have a bound with the community - even if they don't feel strongly connected to Gaga anymore. Time. It will not wait, no matter how hard you hold on... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Stardust 75 Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 Since Gaga’s lack of fan interaction has been mentioned several times, I believe it was this exact same parasocial relationship that y’all keep referring to that brought along her mental downfall and made her health deteriorate. From a psychological standpoint, it is NOT healthy for a person to be exposed to such levels of fame. Being famous is actually extremely draining and takes a terrible toll on your body and mind. Gaga learned this lesson the hard way. What options did she have after her breakdown? She could have called it all off for the sake of her own sanity, but instead she has chosen to cope with her fame in a more healthy way, which automatically implies distancing yourself from the unnatural parasocial relationships with fans. And since some of you mention Madonna or Taylor and try to draw comparisons: well, Madonna is not exactly a good example of a perfectly sane and stable person. She needs the constant confirmation and other people’s admiration in order to feel alive. That is by no means a healthy approach to life. And as far as Taylor goes, it is too early to say anything, but I predict she’ll slip and fall from grace herself one day. This happens to every celebrity sooner or later. Just wait and see. And it will be interesting to see how she’ll react to it. This is all my personal take on things, but again, as a psychologist I think I might understand some of Gaga’s inter- and intrapersonal mechanisms related to fame and see why she has withdrawn into her private life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sara57 2,903 Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 Honestly I don't understand "she's almost 40" argument. What does her age have to do with the fact that nowadays she communicates with us only when she has to sell something? Yes I understand that she isn't chronically online and doesn't share many things with us anymore and good for her, but look at her Instagram lately. And compare it with Idk, Beyonce's? Or Shakira's? Mind you both are older than her and don't share personal stuff with fans either, yet their pages aren't flooded with endless brand deals and stuff to sell. I understand Gaga has the right to do whatever she wants with her career but it kinda makes me sad seeing all of this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magui 2,623 Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, Ultimecia said: I've seen this argument many times : "If you have issues and are unhappy with Gaga, then why are you here - why don't you unstan?" Well, I believe we "Little Monsters", longtime and hardcore fans have created a community with each others over the years. It's not as simple as "just unstanning". People interacting on this site aren't "whining" or complaining for no reason. Nor do they have "no life" or no reasons to be here for voicing negative opinions. These people might still have a bound with the community - even if they don't feel strongly connected to Gaga anymore. And still should have the bond and it's completely alright to not feel strongly connected to Gaga anymore. I actually think that being a casual fan it's a good thing. The thing is just let Gaga go if she doesn't do anything for you, if you constantly want something from her, that she isn't willing to do, or give anymore. What I don't understand is people that developed almost like a disdain for the person an artist that she is today an can't appreciate her. I'm sure there artists out there willing to put music almost every year, interact with fans daily, etc... people would have more fun if they canalize their interest to someone like that. I do think that's a bunch of people here that have interest in others artists and gave Gaga another place in their "hearts", and that's the best. And they simply love the community and interact here. I see no point of comparing Gaga to Taylor Swift, and people always bring it, yes I do know she is the music industry, you have to respect her as an artist. I know that she sells everything that she puts out, it's instantly number one, yet I personally don't follow her, don't know what she is up too, don't buy her music, don't go to sites about her. Anyways I just wanted to point out that I really think, you don't have to be a die hard Gaga fan, to be on this site Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantina 3,282 Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 My only regret is that I didn't manage to go to any of her tours and seeing that it's unlikely she will ever do a large-scale tour in the near future my chances on going are very slim. Even if it's just for one night, I would love to see her live performing all of her older songs that meant the world to me growing up. Until then, this is Elvira saying unpleasant dreams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Stardust 75 Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 The really interesting question is, why do YOU need an artist to engage with you in a pseudo personal way in order to be able to enjoy their art? I like Gaga’s music and artistry, I admire her philanthropy and activism and I am looking forward to whatever art she is going to put out in the future. But I do not need her to acknowledge my existence and to tell me on social media how much she loves me…. It is pretty weird to need that from a pop star, actually…. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsmeluka 898 Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 When was the last time she took a selfie with lil monster or had interaction? (Haus labs, collabs and payed meet and greet doesn’t count) I really can’t remember Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas 24,404 Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Smother Em Eh said: She’s not in her early 20’s anymore and she doesn’t have much to prove anymore. I really don't understand why people say that... Just because you already peaked and had a successful career then you are not expected to put as much efforts in your work to deliver quality If you think about it in the context of any other job it just doesn't make sense at all either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Stardust 75 Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, Lucas said: I really don't understand why people say that... Just because you already peaked and had a successful career then you are not expected to put as much efforts in your work to deliver quality If you think about it in the context of any other job it just doesn't make sense at all either Well, but she IS putting the same amount of effort into her “work”, she has just shifted her focus from her pop star persona to more versatile fields of her professionalism. She has extended her portfolio. That is what happens in the context of any other job as well. It’s called professional growth You don’t need to like it, but she is being extremely professional in this regard . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juniper 791 Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 She overshared at the start of her career and it backfired in the way that fans thought they owned her and she decided to take her own life back. I also think of the days when there was daily content and excitement, but that was then and today I’m just glad I was part of that. I’m still here supporting her whenever she decides to share something because she’s the most talented and interesting artist I ever had the opportunity to follow. She’s still the same kind and approachable person once you meet her. I understand why she stepped back. Her life was exhausting at the beginning and she fought so hard to get where she’s at. I think the ad deals are a way to keep her life style as it is by not doing as much anymore, because as you all realize living her life isn’t cheap. A lot of people are employed by her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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