MessyTop 14,364 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 1 minute ago, phantasmas said: RDR is NOT ballroom are u insane it may have ballroom inspired elements but it is NOT ballroom Again your opinion. If you think the queens are appropriating ball room don’t watch the show. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantasmas 9,970 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, MessyTop said: Again your opinion. If you think the queens are appropriating ball room don’t watch the show. It's not an opinion, babes. It's fact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameltoe Chariot 14,491 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 I find it alarming how many people think that they have to fall in line or shut up about certain topics because someone with "authority" said so. Or that having an opinion on whether or not someone can gatekeep squatting and moving your hands rhythmically is problematic Some of you need to get out of your bubble now and then and take a break from your social algorithms Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessyTop 14,364 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, phantasmas said: It's not an opinion, babes. It's fact. I’m a 45 year old gay man from NYC. I grew up going to balls and drag shows. Love them both. I respect your opinion and I leave it at that. Is sad to see the community trying to tear apart the LGBTQ+ shows and contestants. imagine (Aja and Leiomy) trying to come for a drag Queen of color for appropriation for vogue when we have republicans trying to ban drag. I wish you the best and we can agree to disagree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameltoe Chariot 14,491 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 1 minute ago, MessyTop said: imagine (Aja and Leiomy) trying to come for a drag Queen of color for appropriation for vogue when we have republicans trying to ban drag. Oop! The thread ends here, I fear Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
COOOK 76,406 Posted January 17, 2023 Author Share Posted January 17, 2023 11 minutes ago, MessyTop said: Um, you are in a thread about it. See Title. https://www.out.com/television/2023/1/09/leiomy-shares-thoughts-drag-race-queens-using-ballroom-culture Girl read the title again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantasmas 9,970 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 38 minutes ago, MessyTop said: I’m a 45 year old gay man from NYC. I grew up going to balls and drag shows. Love them both. then you should know better. and should understand where Leiomy is coming from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Boy 3,172 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Oh please this gatekeeping is all so cringe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
27monster27 11,584 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Why are so many members of marginalized communities so unaware of when they do damage to themselves? The comments made here are why the alt-right says stuff like "the left just wants to create problems". he/him/his Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controversiaga 9,495 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 now we have drag queens AND republicans trying to take down drag queens. Pronounced like “Balenciaga” . Emphasis on the “Ga” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiritBunny 3,475 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Leiomy is a miserable individual. Loved her on Legendary so I followed her on twitter and she is always complaining about something or someone. She is also rude to her fans. Glad Legendary got cancelled Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessyTop 14,364 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 33 minutes ago, ControversiaGa said: now we have drag queens AND republicans trying to take down drag queens. 7 minutes ago, SpiritBunny said: Leiomy is a miserable individual. Loved her on Legendary so I followed her on twitter and she is always complaining about something or someone. She is also rude to her fans. Glad Legendary got cancelled This and this !!! Exactly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 50,063 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Not only are they being buzzkills… they’re trashing a fun dance move, insinuating these queens are trying to mock it… and then try and gatekeep and add a morality spin to it?? Give it upppp 😭😭😭 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nATAH 43,553 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 3 hours ago, MessyTop said: I’m a 45 year old gay man from NYC. I grew up going to balls and drag shows. Love them both. I respect your opinion and I leave it at that. Is sad to see the community trying to tear apart the LGBTQ+ shows and contestants. imagine (Aja and Leiomy) trying to come for a drag Queen of color for appropriation for vogue when we have republicans trying to ban drag. I wish you the best and we can agree to disagree. why did i think u were like 16? mother, what must i do? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanSitWithUs 394 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 I really feel like culture in America has become whack af. Like...no one can do anything anymore without someone saying it's wrong or morally bankrupt or appropriating something. It's weird to spend so much time telling people to not do something that they obviously enjoy doing and are just trying to make people happy. And I'm gonna be honest....90% of the rest of the world outside of the U.S. doesn't give a **** about "appropriation". My friends that are POC from other countries think American-born POC are lame for complaining about this too much and there is actually a big in-fighting about that that white people don't even know about. Like....not all black people wanna tell white people the same things. Some black people want white people to participate more in their culture because they believe it will give POC more power once white people are exposed to their culture. My best friends are from Haiti and they think the social justice warriors on the internet complaining about white people doing dreds, wanting to dance in certain ways, etc is actually reversing progress for black people. (These are not my words, these are theirs.) I think we should listen to concerns from all races and not profit off of it. And I think people should be respectful to cultures and give them flowers. HOWEVER....we HAVE kinda taken the whole thing with cancel culture/appropriation/correct speech thing a little too far and it does at times feel like it is an endless battle with no real peace or result in site. I just think dissing people who do not come from a culture for liking something from another culture and innocently wanting to participate in it because they think it is a positive/joyful/beautiful thing is ironically really patriarchal and pushing the whole "we own this, you don't" back off logic that started alot of race/slave/capitalist problems to begin with. Just let people be ****ing happy. And this is ridiculous, too. It's a dance move. It's a literal dance move. A skin color or a group of people do not own a dance move. No one "owns" a body movement. If your body wants to move in a certain way...it's your ****ing body. And I'd like to add that all these drag queens were not born knowing how to vogue. Nogueing is not a thing. I've been to balls. Most of it is made up on the spot. The entire premise is supposed to be about liberation...not control. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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