Gaga no longer expected to get Oscar nomination (Variety)

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Yet she just went up a spot on goldderby? 

Also, of course the ~indviduals~ of the site taking the opportunity to say she wasn't good anyway. 

1 hour ago, mindintransit said:

Clayton Davis is one of many pundits who do award predictions. Owen Gleiberman is the Variety film critic. Gleiberman loved HoG and raved about Gaga's performance (as did many other respected critics who described her performance as “flat out fabulous”, “distinct and distinguished”, “tremendous fun and ultimately touching”). I have no idea who will win the Oscar but I have no doubt that she will be nominated. SAG nominations will be announced next week and I have no doubt that she will be SAG nominated. There's a reason for the strong reviews and box office – people who love movies are loving Gaga's performance.
The AMPAS actors' branch nominates actors (all the AMPAS member vote for the winners). Pundits and film twitter are not on their radar. The only thing predictable about AMPAS members is that they will go their own way.

I was going to say, isn't this that Clayton dude's predictions? He's always getting mocked on the other sites for his opinions on the Oscar race. 

I really don't think there's a way to get a good, accurate reading on the race until SAG noms come out.

Anyway, I'll say this: HoG is one of the two films that people actually saw in the current race (the other being Dune), and Gaga's interpretation of Patrizia is iconic at this point - and not just a stan war'd online sort of iconic, like actually relevant to pop culture iconic. They better not use "Father, son, and House of Gucci" in their award show banter if they don't nominate her 

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5 hours ago, HiddenWeirdo said:

I find answers like yours interesting. I see that a lot here and I'm trying to understand how people like you see themselves. What level of importance do you give yourself that you think you can evaluate an acting performance like that? 

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4 hours ago, ProfessionalClown said:

Ummmm. The eyes of Tammy Faye was a masterpiece 

It was a decent movie lol. Masterpiece?

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6 hours ago, *** Like Pepsi said:

Her performance is not Oscar worthy. I liked the movie and she played her role well but she's not an Oscar-worthy actress in any way. The only reason she would get a nomination is because she is Lady Gaga. 

Neither is Kristen. I like Kristen as a person and some of her movies so I'm not trying to **** on her but she is a mediocre actress and all she was doing in Spencer is impersonating Diana, nothing more. Neither the movie nor her performance are anywhere near Oscar-worthy. 

The Oscars (and all the other award shows) are not based on merit anymore. It's so pathetic.

 

 

5 hours ago, *** Like Pepsi said:

Great acting is when you totally believe that the person you are watching is really going through what you see on screen, bad acting is when you can tell they are just acting. This is hard to put into words but it's just something you recognize because you know how emotions look in real life, you know how people speak, act and react in real life and you can pick up on subtle nuances in how people act in movies and know whether it is believable or not. It's everything, the delivery of lines, the body language, the facial expressions, the tone of voice, everything. In Gaga's case, she is fine in movies where she has to play herself like in 'A Star is Born', but she is clearly not a world class actress nor a professional actress. She's pretty amateur. Her performance was fine but the Oscars are supposed to be the most prestigious acting award and she would never get a nomination for her performance if she was just some random actress starting out. 

As for Kristen, all she does in that Spencer movie is try to emulate Diana's body language, facial expressions, accent, way of speaking, while being dressed like her. She did not for one moment make me think she really was Diana in that film, there was no actual emotion behind any of what she was doing, she was just focusing on having her speech and mannerisms look like Diana (impersonating her) and that's not acting, that's just an impersonation. Anyone could've done what she was doing in that movie. The only reason she is hyped to get a nomination is because 1, the movie is about Diana 2, she is Kristen Stewart. If this was some non-hyped film with a no name actress it would never be nominated for an Oscar. Neither the movie nor her performance deserve to be named the Best of the year. She was also totally miscast in this role, she looks like a 22 year old kid, not like a 30+ woman, Diana looked very womanly at that age and Kristen looks way younger. I look at that movie and think how does this young girl have those two sons? Just because she's skinny and has similar Anglo features doesn't mean she should've been cast as her, they have extremely different auras and Kristen isn't a good enough actress to pull off anyone's aura aside from her own. Diana was very tradtionally feminine and had a motherly presence while Kristen is very boyish. 



 

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Kristen's performance was ONE DEMENSIONAL.

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3 hours ago, pedrohemg said:

They've removed her because of this article https://variety.com/lists/sag-awards-nomination-predictions-lady-gaga/. This is very odd. Did someone pay them to write this? If you read it, you see it doesn't make any since. I can assure you Gaga is in the top #3 for a SAG nomination. 

Only two possible reasons for this. The first is that they’re just shaking up the conversation for the hell of it. The second is that GGs and CCAs voters didn’t go for Gaga and the SAG nomination voters (who I believe are currently voting) are shutting her out.

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Gaga's buzz died off with the next round of movie releases in December. She'll definitely get the nomination.

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9 minutes ago, LateToCult said:

Only two possible reasons for this. The first is that they’re just shaking up the conversation for the hell of it. The second is that GGs and CCAs voters didn’t go for Gaga and the SAG nomination voters (who I believe are currently voting) are shutting her out.

There's a SAG member who posts on the Goldderby forum, and his impression is that Gaga will get a nomination for sure. Variety removing Gaga and Nicole in favor of Halle and Rachel seems very unrealistic, specially Halle.

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12 minutes ago, pedrohemg said:

There's a SAG member who posts on the Goldderby forum, and his impression is that Gaga will get a nomination for sure. Variety removing Gaga and Nicole in favor of Halle and Rachel seems very unrealistic, specially Halle.

Did they really put Halle over Penelope, Jennifer, or even Tessa?

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8 minutes ago, LateToCult said:

Did they really put Halle over Penelope, Jennifer, or even Tessa?

Yes. Halle is at #5. They said: 

Halle Berry has a lot of support in the community, and many in the industry are excited for her venture as a director with “Bruised,” with her performance standing as her best since her Oscar and SAG-winning role in “Monster’s Ball” (2001). Finally, she could make a play.

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49 minutes ago, pedrohemg said:

Yes. Halle is at #5. They said: 

Halle Berry has a lot of support in the community, and many in the industry are excited for her venture as a director with “Bruised,” with her performance standing as her best since her Oscar and SAG-winning role in “Monster’s Ball” (2001). Finally, she could make a play.

Yeah, I don't buy that. If anyone's getting a surprise nomination, it's Jennifer Hudson imo. It's a very actor-y friendly role and allegedly SAG ate up the film at various screenings. Feinberg from THR tends to be the most accurate (as in, talks to insiders) and last I saw he still had Gaga (and Halle was nowhere near the top)....

I mean, I wouldn't be shocked if Gaga missed. It's an incredibly competitive year and there's a lot of BS that surrounds the Oscars (it's rarely just about merit). And tbf, as great as I thought Gaga was (she carried the film, imo) there were better performances imo (esp. international) if we limit it to just 5 performances. Frankly, there's an argument to be made that others deserve more than Kidman, Chastain, Gaga, Zegler, Haim, etc....

And her pop star reputation/the things that make Gaga beloved in the music industry probably doesn't help. As in, it's normal in the music industry to be extremely open (Halsey talking about miscarriages and abortion, Gaga mental health, etc.)...stuff that doesn't really fly in the film industry.

But I still think Gaga has a 70% chance, at least, of getting nominated due to multiple factors (NYFCC giving her the critical stamp of approval, Gucci's box office, etc.).

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1 hour ago, LateToCult said:

Only two possible reasons for this. The first is that they’re just shaking up the conversation for the hell of it. The second is that GGs and CCAs voters didn’t go for Gaga and the SAG nomination voters (who I believe are currently voting) are shutting her out.

Fans on here were going after Kristen for some dumb reason...but I could arguably see Gaga missing on a nom due to Chastain more than anything. I mean, it's not merit so much as "does x actor fit y category (biopic, showy, etc.)". Chastain also has a showy, over the top role and she's been hustling like crazy—way more than Gaga.

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i want kristen to win so idc

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It sucks but it's not that big of a deal.

Let's not forget it took over two decades for Leo DiCaprio, one of Hollywood's most celebrated actors, to get an Oscar.

She might get one eventually, but it's not like she needs it.

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5 hours ago, gypsy101 said:

do you know how the oscars work? the academy votes on who they thought was the best. it’s not pretending to be merit based.

This. I love Gaga, Kidman, Chastain, etc and think they are all great actors who gave worthy performances....but if we're going by merit off actual performances this year there would be a lot more non-English lang. performances (specifically Cruz, but Renate too).

I don't think a lot of people get that the Oscars is basically a weird popularity contest and it's not just merit. Also, Gaga being a pop star arguably works against her in some ways.