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I'm putting a positive spin on this. The Variety article is written by Clayton Davis, and I think he is simply campaigning on behalf of Gaga and Jared. Clayton Davis is the same guy who wrote a piece back in November singling out Gaga and Jared as Oscar contenders. Now he is wondering out loud if they are both in trouble. Why is he doing that ? Well first of all, imo, he is just being consistent, framing his piece around the same two people that he framed it around in November, but secondly, I would guess that he is trying to drum up support for them. He is saying to the people who haven't voted yet 'don't assume that Gaga or Leto are locks and that you would be wasting your vote by voting for them'. In any election situation, the last thing you need is voters thinking that your guy doesn't need their votes.

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androiduser

I think Gaga's role is one of those cases that wouldn't be an undeserved nomination but  it wouldn't be a snub if she didn't receive a nomination either.

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djBuffoon
14 hours ago, Suuus said:

Yes she does she full method for this role

Yeah, going full method doesn’t inherently meant that someone deserves an Oscar nomination for it.

If she gets one, great. But no one deserves a nod because of how they prepared for a role. 

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On 1/6/2022 at 10:36 AM, *** Like Pepsi said:

Her performance is not Oscar worthy. I liked the movie and she played her role well but she's not an Oscar-worthy actress in any way. The only reason she would get a nomination is because she is Lady Gaga. 

Neither is Kristen. I like Kristen as a person and some of her movies so I'm not trying to **** on her but she is a mediocre actress and all she was doing in Spencer is impersonating Diana, nothing more. Neither the movie nor her performance are anywhere near Oscar-worthy. 

The Oscars (and all the other award shows) are not based on merit anymore. It's so pathetic.

 

Even though i'd agree that her performance wasnt necessarily a given for an oscar as a glenn close performance would be or whatever, this argument means nothing to me and should mean nothing to anyone considering some of the performances they HAVE nominated over the years. Ive said it a million times in real life, but if they awarded Sandra Bullock for the g*ddamn Blind Side I mean..... why shouldn't gaga get a nom? lol they nominated renee zellweger for briget jones i mean... I can go on and on. its more about the strength of performances in the year. and imo westside story inherently should never be nominated for anything that whole play is an abomination lol

Anyone actively/openly being opposed to her oscar nomination, imo, is simply speaking out just because she is Lady Gaga. as you say, is the only reason shed even be nominated lol like if anyones going to get opinionated about her nomination being undeserved they better keep that same energy for all the other undeserved nominations. because theyre always aplenty.

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Leoj305

Man if the movie did better critically maybe but it was barely good review wise. Almost rotten on RT. 

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LilyLark
11 hours ago, CyanDante said:

Have you seen the Lost Daughter?

I watched the Lost Daughter last night. And reading about all the hype and acclaim, dare I say I was underwhelmed. Especially by Colman. She was way above and beyond in the Favourite.

I also felt both Dakota Johnson and Jessie Buckley, outshone her everytime they were on the screen. Colman's character didn't really come across as a Oscar winning standout performance, which is usually what the Academy steers towards to.

I did. I thought she was extremely subtle, and I do think that could work against her when you have performances like Kristen, Penelope, Gaga, etc. I do agree that Jessie and Dakota being so strong might hurt her too (even if I thought she was incredible)....when the supporting players are just as good the lead doesn't pop as much.

I feel like that was an issue with Passing. Tessa was excellent, but Ruth was even better.

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LateToCult

Gaga and Nicole nabbed a nomination in Georgia and Hawaii (respectively). They’re not completely dead in the critics circle. I need SAG nominations to come out right now. :cyanlights:

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I've been following this race for a while. I don't get the instant meltdown in this thread, as multiple started 'acknowledging' that Gaga's out...Clayton Davis is a journalist, not an Academy member. Objectively, Gaga has a great chance of being nominated. Much larger than being snubbed. 

One important fact is she currently holds an extremely strong combination: a trifecta (NYFCC) + GG nom + CC nom + AACTA nom. No one in this CENTURY missed the oscar nom with this combination. I believe 13 or 14 actresses in this century had this lineup, and all of them made it. Of course I understand that records can be broken. If Gaga misses, she'll be the first in this century, something extremely unfortunate. 

I suspect that THR, Variety, and a few other experts are removing her is due to her consecutive misses in regional critics nominations. Both Gaga and Nicole miss 8 consecutive regionals until today. So it's really the SAG that will determine the two's chances. If Gaga makes it in SAG, she will have a solid lineup for an Oscar nom(GGn+CCn+SAGn+NYFCC+AACTAn+Capri)

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If the Oscars is virtual, i dont mind Gaga not getting a nom.. She deserves a stage, an audience clapping, moment for the Oscars. And the red carpet, and physical interviews, star interactions :giveup:

I havent Watched HOG so i can comment just this :billie:

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I agree that she has very little chance of winning, so do Nicole and Jessica. This is a very strange year for actress category because every contender has her own weakness. Gaga Nicole and Jessica are in mix-reviewed films, with Gaga having the box office and star power, Jessica having the 'transformative' aspect + Searching light, and Nicole having Lucille (Hollywood Icon) and possible supporting actor nom. 

But the BA is becoming more and more like another BP. Non-BP actresses are becoming harder and harder to win the award. They can still get nominated (Andra Day, Viola, Cynthia, etc) but they ain't winning. Actresses from mixed reviewed films need super strong narrative and outside force to win (Meryl, Renee). For that reason, Kristen and Olivia remain the strongest contenders so far. Though their films aren't getting BP noms, they're at least well received compared to HoG, BTR, TEOTF.

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Out of all the actresses contenders's performances (that I've seen), I actually like Penelope's the best. It's a shame that she isn't getting enough recognition in the U.S., or else I think she'll make a very promising winner in this year race. Her film isn't divisive between critics and audience like Spencer and The Lost Daughter. The aesthetic and score are phenomenal. Penelope's narrative is also strong, regarding her status in the industry and Hollywood's need for diversity. 

I personally dislike Alana's performance the most. Not that I think she's terrible, she's ok. I just think she's so overhyped. Her acting is natural and somewhat likeable, but there's nothing standing out. I'll be skeptical if the Academy chooses her over Gaga, Penelope, or Rachel. However Alana is Jewish, so it's possible that the executives in the industry will give her strong push, even if it means sacrificing Gaga. (Not anti-semetic, just that they're an extremely powerful group in Hollywood that tend to support each other strongly. )

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JRCF29

I really can't see a Rachel Zegler nomination.

I have three locks (Chastain, Kidman, Stewart), one likely (Gaga), and the one dark horse (Hudson)

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On 1/6/2022 at 9:46 PM, LilyLark said:

Of all the names being tossed around, I think Colman and Kristen are probably the most deserving to win.

I'd say that Kidman's performance was better than Colman's, especially given how negative the reception to her casting was. 

On 1/6/2022 at 9:46 PM, LilyLark said:

I could even see Colman missing out on a nomination

I currently see Colman as the most likely surprise "snub" in the category. This nomination slate is always stacked with biopic portrayals (in 2019, for example, 3/5 of the nominees fit this description: Charlize Theron, Cynthia Erivo, and Renee Zellweger were nominated for portrayals of Megyn Kelly, Harriet Tubman, and Judy Garland, respectively), and with a particularly strong field fitting that bill this year, I can see her being squeezed out

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androiduser

I think Gaga will get the nomination because the focus will be on the big names and as many celebs as they can squeeze in.

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Traveler1215

If Lady Gaga is not rewarded with a nomination for Best Actress, I will be very disappointed in the Academy. Unfortunately, it will not be a first. Gaga's path to a Best Actress Oscar may follow another's, Cher. In 1986, Cher was not nominated for Mask, a mistake by the Academy. Truly, 1985 was a year full of great performances by actresses. The 1986 Academy Awards Ceremony was an absolute tragedy to me with the omission of Cher and The Color Purple earning 11 nominations with a heartbreaking zero wins. Of course, I am biased because I love Cher and The Color Purple is my favorite film of all time. Finally in 1988, Cher was awarded a Best Actress Oscar. I still believe Gaga will be nominated for House of Gucci. Although she should have won for A Star Is Born, another Academy mistake, I know she will win a Best Actress Oscar. Her career is expanding and evolving making her an exciting artist. Gaga is not simply a star, she is a cultural icon with immense talent and an innate goodness. I absolutely adore Lady Gaga!

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