Billie Eilish opens up about p0rn addiction

[Dennis 8,391]

100% **** is ****ing horrible terrible

Like the thumbnails sometimes force you to see things you cant unsee and it messes up your brain.

Like its fine to have fetishes etc, but please display them only for people who show interest..

There are things I didn't even know were a fetish until I was forced to see them by these stupid ass websites

[HuffsAhoy 7,433]

Like any addiction, people need to consult with a trained therapist if they feel its getting out of hand. Just because you have no self-control doesn't mean you get to ruin it for the rest of us. A great example is poppers. I love and use them every time I am intimate. It infuriates me to no end when I see gays going on long rants about their dangers, despite the fact poppers are super safe when used properly. P0rn is the same. Take some personal responsibility ffs. You Puritan Gen Z'ers are becoming such a nuisance.  

[CatelynnMarie 4,406]

I’m really happy she’s speaking up about this. It honestly is an extremely disruptive thing and creates a lot of unrealistic expectations for so many people and really can fck up your mind/ body.

[Fanta 5,019]

2 hours ago, Stephen said:

I'm not saying she's wrong (she makes a great point) but damn if this isn't just another example of how Gen Z is getting more conservative. Not in a political sense but socially, I think as a result of the dilution and misuse of "woke-ness".

The point of being "woke" was originally to point out injustices, especially racism. Unfortunately it's become more of a competition for who can out-woke each other and win the most internet points. 

For example, the advent of cancel culture - which can be a good thing when used correctly -  has been warped and squandered by these young kids demanding apologies from every public figure that they perceive has done the slightest thing to offend them, or reaching to find a reason to cancel someone, seemingly for sport.

Or the endless lambasting of pride parades every June. The amount of Gen Zers I saw crying on Twitter about pride parades this past year was nauseating. They think they are being ultra-woke but really they're just aligning themselves with conservatives, feeding into the narrative that gays are corrupting deviants - the exact opposite of the intention of pride. 

I fear the woke-ness is doubling back and the kids are re-discovering conservative ideologies without realizing it. Like the snake eating its own tail.

How are Gen Z akin to conservatives for the reasons you have listed?

The pride debate was extremely valid, I personally think that a lot of gay men need to let go of their gayness (that they equate with sex) as a personality trait. A discussion is simply a discussion, and it's not only naked gay men at pride - so if we're having the conversation, then trust it's all of us joining in. Also, I don't want to derail this thread so if you wanna respond to this bit in DMs, you're welcome to (:

It's the same situation here. No one said people who enjoy p*rn are not allowed to, but the points that Billie made are extremely valid and the overwhelming support in this thread (and some saying they feel better knowing a celebrity is talking about this) shows you that it is important to have those discussions. No one is being conservative, in fact, I think if we are to learn anything from Gen Z it is to start having all the conversations and see where it goes from there.

[HuffsAhoy 7,433]

3 minutes ago, Fanta said:

personally think that a lot of gay men need to let go of their gayness (that they equate with sex) as a personality trait

You say you're not a conservative but this is literally a talking point they use to invalidate us. The growing trend among Gen Z to see sex and sexuality as something to be ashamed of or to let go is a new form of conversion therapy. 

[thehanyo 4,251]

P0rn CAN be destructive, but it's not innately destructive. That's dangerous and further endangers sex workers.

[Fanta 5,019]

9 minutes ago, HuffsAhoy said:

You say you're not a conservative but this is literally a talking point they use to invalidate us. The growing trend among Gen Z to see sex and sexuality as something to be ashamed of or to let go is a new form of conversion therapy. 

I wrote a really nice, long response and then I reread your post and saw the bit where you claim Gen Z is ashamed of sex and it is akin to conversion therapy...

[HuffsAhoy 7,433]

19 minutes ago, Fanta said:

I wrote a really nice, long response and then I reread your post and saw the bit where you claim Gen Z is ashamed of sex and it is akin to conversion therapy...

You may not be physically torturing young LGBT people but your rhetoric is just as damaging. Imagine being someone who lived through the gay rights movements of the last two decades only to have some young Gen Z'ers come around and start spouting nonsense like "just be less gay", "you're a deviate for loving sex", and "Pride Parades are cancers to society"  I lived through a good chunk of the last 20 years and I just refuse to sit by quietly and let y'all swoop in with this mess. 

[Glamourpuss 29,062]

1 hour ago, HuffsAhoy said:

Like any addiction, people need to consult with a trained therapist if they feel its getting out of hand. Just because you have no self-control doesn't mean you get to ruin it for the rest of us. A great example is poppers. I love and use them every time I am intimate. It infuriates me to no end when I see gays going on long rants about their dangers, despite the fact poppers are super safe when used properly. P0rn is the same. Take some personal responsibility ffs. You Puritan Gen Z'ers are becoming such a nuisance.  

I think the discussion you want to have is a different topic entirely. 

Billie is talking about people being exposed to it at a young age. A child doesn't know how to take responsibility. They don't understand adult relationships yet and it messes up their understanding of what a real intimate relationship is supposed to be.

[godnhat 3,702]

One of the saddest parts of this article is the fact that an 11 year old seemingly had easy and endless access to **** to begin with. That's some violent and traumatic **** to be watching as an 11yr old girl.

[thehanyo 4,251]

1 minute ago, Glamourpuss said:

I think the discussion you want to have is a different topic entirely. 

Billie is talking about people being exposed to it at a young age. A child doesn't know how to take responsibility. They don't understand adult relationships yet and it messes up their understanding of what a real intimate relationship is supposed to be.

Then the responsibility FULLY rests on her parents' shoulders. I was not watching p0rn at 11 years old, good god. The legal age to consume it is 18 years old.

[HuffsAhoy 7,433]

4 minutes ago, Glamourpuss said:

I think the discussion you want to have is a different topic entirely. 

Billie is talking about people being exposed to it at a young age. A child doesn't know how to take responsibility. They don't understand adult relationships yet and it messes up their understanding of what a real intimate relationship is supposed to be.

Thank you clarifying, I was definitely not understanding her remarks.

However, I have to question the home in which she was raised if that's the case. My parents were sex positive (meaning they didn't balk the first time I asked about the birds and bees or masturbation, for example), and it wasn't until I was around 15 that I accidentally found my dad's p0rn collection. The fact she saw this material at such a young age, to me yes, is disturbing and tells me some safety mechanisms were not in place. 

[Mother of Puppies 36,461]

6 hours ago, Morphine Prince said:

The way that vaginas look in **** is ****ing crazy. No vaginas look like that. Women’s bodies don’t look like that. We don’t come like that…it’s how so many people think they’re supposed to learn.”

Does she refer to the kind of „high end produced ****“? 
I mean the people in **** movies are also people.

And every body is different and even in **** people all look different.

(But I do get what she wants to say with this)

I was exposed to **** for the first time at a friends house when I was about 9-10 which was way to early 

[Magui 2,628]

11? She was so young 

First time i watched **** i was 17 and i didn't even watch the whole thing lol ( i just didn't have any interest in it, the steaming scenes from films like The English Patient, for example, were more of my thing lol). Later in life, i discover some pretty interesting erotic movies

I definitely can see how it can create some damage with kids at  young age. 

[Magui 2,628]

7 minutes ago, Mother of Puppies said:

Does she refer to the kind of „high end produced ****“? 
I mean the people in **** movies are also people.

And every body is different and even in **** people all look different.

(But I do get what she wants to say with this)

I was exposed to **** for the first time at a friends house when I was about 9-10 which was way to early 

What did you think about it when you were 9-10?