Satan, Not Travis Scott, Is to Blame for Astroworld Tragedy

[MadreMonster 2,584]

2 hours ago, DanielM said:

Religion is the opium of the people. You Americans prefer to believe in literally anything instead of making the basic safe policy regulations. That goes from guns to universal health care. I just know nothing like what happened last weekend would ever happen in Europe, and I'm glad I was born here.

It has happened in Europe.

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/nine-dead-at-pearl-jam-concert-235167/amp/

[azul 2,099]

6 minutes ago, MadreMonster said:

It has happened in Europe.

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/nine-dead-at-pearl-jam-concert-235167/amp/

I mean, that was in 2000 and even at the time, their response was much more coordinated and empathic from security to the artists, by that article. At Astroworld, it seems no one cared. Accidents happen everywhere. It's the way people react to it that speaks volumes. I would say again, today in any European country, with our safety precautions in every public event, this level of negligence would not happen.  

[Fresco 1,688]

Take a close look at the shirt Travis Scott wore at the concert. The blue and green  jelly bipeds are walking through a portal and coming out the other side as red jelly with devil horns.  It's commonly known in American culture that those horns are devil symbols, imo.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/8-people-killed-scores-injured-crowd-surge-at-travis-scott-astroworld-festival-1254181/amp/

 another user posted video of the concert with a fire above the stage and called the fire a demon. Sorry I couldn't find that video again now, but the  fire thing  that looks like wings moving was part of the show. starting 1:04 in the video.

 

 

 

I think that if you reference the devil in your show in a way that American pop culture recognizes it, you have to own it. 

Whether or not the devil exists is a matter of individual religious belief, cuz science can't prove nothing about that.

 

[Damon 10,905]

How could rolling stone approve a post like this under their name?  this is disrespectful to the victims and cringey, it's was a tragedy not something you can post some random shït for a few views

[NCgaga 4,333]

3 hours ago, DanielM said:

Religion is the opium of the people. You Americans prefer to believe in literally anything instead of making the basic safe policy regulations. That goes from guns to universal health care. I just know nothing like what happened last weekend would ever happen in Europe, and I'm glad I was born here.

You are correct, 

BUT 

this has also happened in Europe several times. The latest was in Germany in 2010 with 21 deaths at the love parade festival. 

[azul 2,099]

3 minutes ago, Fresco said:

Whether or not the devil exists is a matter of individual religious belief, cuz science can't prove nothing about that.

Are you serious right now? Devil is a metaphor, it's not an entity. I mean, even the Pope recognizes it. It's not even a religious belief. I-

[VasilisVas 5,202]

Can someone explain what exactly happened? I’ve been hearing about this in the news a lot, but I don’t understand what exactly started this whole mess. 

[Teletubby 153,739]

Just now, NCgaga said:

this has also happened in Europe several times. The latest was in Germany in 2010 with 21 deaths at the love parade festival. 

11 years ago, a lot has changed since then.
It was a free event, no one know how many people attended it, it had authorisation for 250K people, according to some sources there were 1.4 million visitors on this day and the area was not suitable for this even. All visitors were both leaving and arriving through a single entrance tunnel. The deaths occurred as panic broke out in a tunnel.

[NCgaga 4,333]

30 minutes ago, Teletubby said:

11 years ago, a lot has changed since then.
It was a free event, no one know how many people attended it, it had authorisation for 250K people, according to some sources there were 1.4 million visitors on this day and the area was not suitable for this even. All visitors were both leaving and arriving through a single entrance tunnel. The deaths occurred as panic broke out in a tunnel.

Right. The same exact poor planning, lack of security and directing staff, etc can also happen in Europe. There are also several another concerts and soccer(football) games in European countries where this has happened. 

[Sepsami 19,403]

Religion is perfectly normal and healthy tho 

[Sepsami 19,403]

10 hours ago, MadreMonster said:

Great way of putting it. I saw all the demon/paranormal/ritual TikToks on it and I wanted to scream. Like stop making people’s deaths a game to figure out.

YES, these type of things always get turned into fkn spectacles to ogle over 

[Sepsami 19,403]

4 hours ago, DanielM said:

Religion is the opium of the people. You Americans prefer to believe in literally anything instead of making the basic safe policy regulations. That goes from guns to universal health care. I just know nothing like what happened last weekend would ever happen in Europe, and I'm glad I was born here.

Gur- idk about that, we have a mess on our hands too at times 

[Sepsami 19,403]

1 hour ago, DanielM said:

Are you serious right now? Devil is a metaphor, it's not an entity. I mean, even the Pope recognizes it. It's not even a religious belief. I-

Offtopic but (unfortunately) the devil is very real to a lot of people though, like as an actual entity, yes. 

[JohnnyVersace 9,074]

Pretty disrespectful to be making light of the situation with this “joke” when so many people were hurt just days ago. 

[Thomas P 18,479]

This discussion is incredibly disrespectful to the people lost and traumatized.