Vaccination Mandate In France. Unvaxxed Will Not Have Access To Things.

[monster4life231 4,304]

19 hours ago, Jill said:

That's why masks and social distancing are still in place for vaccinated people. Plus, if you're vaccinated, the disease isn't as bad, so logic says the more people are vaccinated, the less bad and contagious the disease is.

Also, as far as I know, it will decrease the likelihood of new variants emerging too.

[Angelina Stefania 427]

On 7/13/2021 at 2:18 AM, Esteban said:

There is other ways than taking off individual liberties, letting this kind of decisions pass is very dangerous for what is coming. No president in a democracy should be able to do that...
Health employees are threat to not be paid if they aren't vaccined, although there isn't enough doses for everybody until september so what will happen?
I totally disagree with that extreme decision, this and social laws under his mandate are just rights anihilation...

 

Anti vaxxers and covidiots who haven't been following guidelines have taken away our rights to live in a safe healthy environment. For decades, certain vaccines in many countries have been mandatory, such as the Tuberculosis vaccine, it was a pandemic, many countries made the TB vaccine, aka BCG mandatory, people got the shot, now TB has become a more dormant infection. People needs to stop making guidelines, vaccines, etc about rights and freedom, it's not about that, it's about getting the vaccine so the virus becomes dormant. 

[CommonWhiteGirl 1,039]

16 hours ago, SlipAway said:

He’s not up for re-election anyway, the dude is like 100 plz

But he wouldn’t do it anyway, imagine how 40% of the population would be PISSED we don’t want capitol 2.0

Well... honestly idk I can see him running and not running (I hope he doesn't btw) but the most likely candidate in his place that his campaign is going to push is Kamala, and anything that Joe does (because a. she's a woman b. she's a woman of color, and c. she's his VP) all of the fallback is going to land directly in her lap. So, Biden is essential running on a re-election whether or not he actually runs himself.

Spoiler

I hope that made sense I'm a little stoned 

 

[Esteban 2,300]

10 hours ago, Angelina Stefania said:

Anti vaxxers and covidiots who haven't been following guidelines have taken away our rights to live in a safe healthy environment. For decades, certain vaccines in many countries have been mandatory, such as the Tuberculosis vaccine, it was a pandemic, many countries made the TB vaccine, aka BCG mandatory, people got the shot, now TB has become a more dormant infection. People needs to stop making guidelines, vaccines, etc about rights and freedom, it's not about that, it's about getting the vaccine so the virus becomes dormant. 

Israël is 100% vaccined and the efficiency of the Pfizer vaccine against delta variant is now at 56%...  So I understand we can doubt about the efficiency

Macron voted no for the unprivatization of the vaccine, because of him we cant produce our own vaccine and have to buy it.. Why ? Because of deals with companies

Also, we dont know long terms effects of this kind of vaccine, we could take the Sputnik one, which works like traditional vaccine but France dont want to give money to Russia 

Threat people to not be paid is way too much, three months ago health workers were seen as heroes and applaused every  evening and now those who questioned themselves are criminals ? 

So Im not anti-vax, once again I'm vaccined because I knew we would be forced to do it in order to go to parties and restaurants and, selfishly, I didnt want to waste my time anymore so I did it. But first, I didn't know it would be this authoritarian and also, I understand the concerns of some and most of all, I see the hypocrisy of my government. I dont like how this forum composed for most of it of non french people misjudge a country and its political decisions when they don't even see the big picture. 

 

[MelbHawker 6,583]

9 hours ago, Esteban said:

Israël is 100% vaccined and the efficiency of the Pfizer vaccine against delta variant is now at 56%...  So I understand we can doubt about the efficiency

Israel is only 60% fully vaccinated.. Delta variant is starting to manifest there now. 

[monster4life231 4,304]

19 hours ago, Angelina Stefania said:

Anti vaxxers and covidiots who haven't been following guidelines have taken away our rights to live in a safe healthy environment. For decades, certain vaccines in many countries have been mandatory, such as the Tuberculosis vaccine, it was a pandemic, many countries made the TB vaccine, aka BCG mandatory, people got the shot, now TB has become a more dormant infection. People needs to stop making guidelines, vaccines, etc about rights and freedom, it's not about that, it's about getting the vaccine so the virus becomes dormant. 

Also, vaccine requirements are commonplace for traveling a lot of the time. When I went to Mexico I needed vaccinations, but I didn't protest over "rights and freedoms" since I would rather not be seriously ill while on holiday. As you say, the issue with the vaccination programme is that it is being framed as an issue of freedom, rather than as a medical issue. As with most things it has been heavily politicised. 

[CommonWhiteGirl 1,039]

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[Bio 23,538]

On 7/13/2021 at 11:49 PM, Esteban said:

Yikes to people who condemn a whole country about a situation they don't live 

Actually they want to forbid unvaccinated people from flying so they also don’t bring their disease to other countries. Have fun being isolated!

[Esteban 2,300]

3 hours ago, Bio said:

Actually they want to forbid unvaccinated people from flying so they also don’t bring their disease to other countries. Have fun being isolated!

For the third time, I'm vaccined !  But the way you talk is very iritating my god ! I didn't know people like you were for real, taking pleasure from others restrictions is totally twisted... Do you realize most of the non vaccinated people are in the low social class ? They are uneducated, misinformed and scared and on top of that we put an authoritarian law ? I understand their fears, their questions and I'm against the way they are threat socially speaking! We are creating two categories of people ! Not only with this vaccine story, but also the way we delete social rights from the begining of Macron's mandate.

So please let the french problems to french people and stop being this pretentious and happy to attack others... You are free to collaborate to the social division but we aren't in the same team, so talk to me with respect or don't talk, bye

[Guest]

pedos, welcome to the hospital. unvaxxed, go **** urself and die.  

SO STUPID AND HORRIBLE.

[Gabe 2,587]

I agree except the not getting medical attention part, tad too far. 

[badboymonsterx 555]

I agree wish the US would do this! They would never though. 

[Starlit 68]

On 7/17/2021 at 1:44 AM, urgirl said:

pedos, welcome to the hospital. unvaxxed, go **** urself and die.  

SO STUPID AND HORRIBLE.

Finally someone with humanity. Was beginning to lose faith there for a while. 

[devilrhino 394]

Taking away people's individual choice over their own bodies and health like this is disgusting and authoritarianism at its finest.