Eido 3,681 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 For once I do believe this is right to do that Enough of people like my father Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadikaado 4,302 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 I agree with it untill the part these people are banned from hospitals. You can't stop people from getting emergency care. But I agree 100% with the other things. If a doctor is against the vaccine then he shouldn't be working in medicine. Go work with crystals, chakras or whatever. I am authistic, so don't be offended if I make a mess sometimes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeesJ 99 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 This is not the whole truth. They don’t need to be vaccinated as a mandatory! They also can go out with a negative test result or a recovery status. Just like us in the Netherlands. 😉 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout19 15,756 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 If you want do it, if you don't .. no. It's not normal to say these things i am a free woman. ○● Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weed 78,921 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 as long as they're forcing pfizer i'm fine w it xox my sis is v bothered lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,844 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Morphine Prince said: Seeing as half of the population has at least one dose it’s not so extreme. France is only at halg for 1 dose? I thought most of Europe would have surpassed that by now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,844 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Kadikaado said: I agree with it untill the part these people are banned from hospitals. You can't stop people from getting emergency care. But I agree 100% with the other things. If a doctor is against the vaccine then he shouldn't be working in medicine. Go work with crystals, chakras or whatever. Im not against the idea of vaccine passports in general and if u said unvaxxed doctors had to be temporarily suspended to avoid spread i can agree with that too But i dont agree with the underlined part. Science has always thrived and advanced with individuals that didnt take the status quo or general belief even among their peers for granted and were able to think for themselves. Many times those individuals were wrong, but it was also those individuals who did notice when stuff was wrong and advanced ideas These vaccines are still relatively new and we are still discovering new potential effects every so often. I dont think if a doctor has legitimate reservations that they automatically "shouldnt be practicing medicine" as long as they arent saying obsurd things like "its changing your DNA". We dont all have to have mob like thinking all the time. The moment were not allowed to question anymore (and ppl in intelectual fields even more so) were doomed as a society Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Rah Rah 2,013 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 No hospital treatment though? I’ve had both shots of AZ and wholeheartedly agree that vaccines should be encouraged but preventing someone getting medical treatment for a personal decision is crazy. Chromatica will live on forever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stupid Oreo 14,669 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 I will be going home from vacay on the 31st of July, lucky me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadikaado 4,302 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 21 minutes ago, Economy said: Im not against the idea of vaccine passports in general and if u said unvaxxed doctors had to be temporarily suspended to avoid spread i can agree with that too But i dont agree with the underlined part. Science has always thrived and advanced with individuals that didnt take the status quo or general belief even among their peers for granted and were able to think for themselves. Many times those individuals were wrong, but it was also those individuals who did notice when stuff was wrong and advanced ideas These vaccines are still relatively new and we are still discovering new potential effects every so often. I dont think if a doctor has legitimate reservations that they automatically "shouldnt be practicing medicine" as long as they arent saying obsurd things like "its changing your DNA". We dont all have to have mob like thinking all the time. The moment were not allowed to question anymore (and ppl in intelectual fields even more so) were doomed as a society Please, the vaccines are new against corona, but the technology of these vaccines was already tested against other diseases. Even if you are not doing it out of malice you are spreading conspiracionist fake news that spread misinformation to harm people. I am authistic, so don't be offended if I make a mess sometimes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadikaado 4,302 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 19 minutes ago, Lady Dimitrescu said: for a personal decision is crazy It's not personal when you can still spread a deadly disease to other people, especially those who legitemately can't take the vaccine because of health issues. I am authistic, so don't be offended if I make a mess sometimes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oriane 22,757 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 I see so many idiots online criticizing this and comparing it to the Shoah, to North Korea... And we have some of them right here in this thread too If you don't want to get vaccinated, fine, no one is preventing you to live or to have your personal freedom. But it's also fine to restrict your access to public spaces, because spoiler alert, you're a risk of contamination. The only GGD member who can read / Credits to Celloo Deng for the profile pic! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 I don't think it's right at all and for a few reasons -Manipulating people into getting vaccinated by banning them in certain places is not the right way to do things as a leader of a so called free country. You should educate and promote the vaccine, explain how it works in details, educate educate educate -Police officers are exempt from taking the vaccine by force, no reasons are explained. Not the first time the police are treated differently, he tried to make it illegal to record them, and even said the retirement reform he's preparing where you have to work longer will not apply to police officers -This hasn't even been validated by the senate and others, I think he doesn't care, it's on purpose, even if the senate and others don't validate it, he still boosted vaccination appointements, as 1M made an appointement last night. It's pure manipulation - The only thing I agree with is to apply lockdown only to non vaccinated people -Many people were waiting for other vaccines they felt more comfortable with like Sanofi from French labs, it's their choice to choose which vaccine they want to inject in their bodies whether you agree or not, it's a control you should be able to have without social repercussions or pressure from the government -He made the PCR tests expensive so that you have to do the vaccine, I don't think manipulating people and acting like a smartass is how a french president should act. Bad leadership and again always doing things by force, he loves it. -He only gives us a few weeks to make the decision, if you're not ready you're not ready, I dont care what people say. If you need time to educate yourself to not feel any fear anymore, or you just cannot do it because you have allergies or you already caught covid, then you are punished. And of course your summer is ruined. -He threatenes health workers and tells them that if they don't comply no more job and no more money for them. Basically go sink in poverty, to heroes who saved so many people, you dare to say that to them. Instead of...uh...I don't know...Creating a new platform for them where they can be educated and encouraged to take the vaccines by their peers? -The best strategy against multiple variants would be to speak with other countries like United States, Germany, UK... to start thinking about ways to give away vaccines all over the world to countries that don't have any access. That should progress things up a bit, because honey 100% of vaccinated people in France won't stop other variants becoming stronger than the vaccine and causing deaths Great job Macron, your political career is officially over. But of course you don't care as after being president you have free retirement for life, paid by taxpayers, with bodyguards and a luxuruious appartment in Paris. You don't care. Go **** yourself Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEDRUG 11,254 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 if this is the only way you can get your population to get the vaccine, you have failed horribly as a leader. "through all the tears and all the lies, i'm gonna dance until i feel alright" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegAde 20,555 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 This is stupid and unnecessary, WTH Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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