PhantomOfTheDance 13,795 Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 May they rest in peace . . . religion is ****ing pathetic sometimes.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlepotter 76,612 Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 This is so heartbreaking. My god why is the world like this chaeri pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regina George 59,387 Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, OMonster said: Do you find that most people in your circle are tolerant/accepting of LGBTQ people? Also, I hope this isn't offensive at all but the media often likes to perpetuate the idea that Islam (and other religions) is anti-gay. I'd be really interested to hear your view on this. Yes, it’s said that being gay and doing what gay people do is sin BUT it is also said not to hate anyone for anything and not to judge anyone for anything. Also murder is biggest sin in Islam for whatever reason (only allowed in self defence). My personal belief is that my God is good and that he doesn’t hate people for what they are. I fully support and love LGBT people and I fully stand by what they are. And I strongly oppose anyone who dares to speak against them or harm them in any way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMonster 15,025 Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, April 25 said: there's no perpetuation going on. islam IS homophobic and this is coming from someone living my entire life in muslim counties, witnessing multiple harassments and reports of assaults myself. both by citizens and the authorities. one thing they all have in common and started it all? islam. and now that LGBT is advancing forward in the west you're hearing the mixed muslim westerns claim that LGBT is totally fine and accepted because they haven't seen sh*t going on in their home countries and dont want to get dragged. I'm very aware of this and I'm really sorry to hear about your experience. Awful. I guess my point was really to ask about muslims living in western countries. I once read that 70% of muslims living in the west are anti-gay. I wasn't sure if that still stood or was held up by lived experiences. If a muslim person comes to the west, I would expect them to adopt and accept our values. I'm interested to hear if that's the case. subtext / fantasy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic 49,376 Posted May 9, 2021 Author Share Posted May 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, Kadikaado said: Religion is a disease and Islam is the worst disease of all! I think you mean well, but please refrain from saying things like this. We have gay muslim members, we have members who grew up in muslim families but aren't anymore. You can get stereotyped, targeted, harrassed and attacked for "looking" muslim, regardless of your actual affiliation with the religion of Islam. I don't think Alireza would feel comforted if he had read this. He then would start worrying about how not to come across as a "muslim threat". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regina George 59,387 Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 11 minutes ago, OMonster said: Do you find that most people in your circle are tolerant/accepting of LGBTQ people? Also, I hope this isn't offensive at all but the media often likes to perpetuate the idea that Islam (and other religions) is anti-gay. I'd be really interested to hear your view on this. Also to answer your question. My mom is hardcore muslim, doing every single prayer, etc.. And she supports gay people because like she says “who am I to hate someone or something that God created?” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chic 20,830 Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, alsemanche said: And before someone jumps to scream Islamophobia, I second this as someone living in an Arab country that has a good amount of Muslims in it. And let me add that Christianity isn't any better, despite how some try to paint it as such. I was raised Christian (but I'm not religious in the slightest now) and the levels of homophobia are sickeningly high. Exactly!! You put this in a fantastic way! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMonster 15,025 Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Just now, Regina George said: Also to answer your question. My mom is hardcore muslim, doing every single prayer, etc.. And she supports gay people because like she says “who am I to hate someone or something that God created?” Thanks for answering That's good to hear. I'm guessing you're in a western country, right? Would you say the majority of muslims in your age and in your country are accepting (or tolerant) of LGBTQ identities? subtext / fantasy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadikaado 4,302 Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, Supersonic said: I think you mean well, but please refrain from saying things like this. We have gay muslim members, we have members who grew up in muslim families but aren't anymore. You can get stereotyped, targeted, harrassed and attacked for "looking" muslim, regardless of your actual affiliation with the religion of Islam. I don't think Alireza would feel comforted if he had read this. He then would start worrying about how not to come across as a "muslim threat". I was pretty clear talking about the RELIGION and not the people. F-O-O-C-K ALL RELIGIONS!! THEY ARE A CANCER!! I am authistic, so don't be offended if I make a mess sometimes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regina George 59,387 Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 10 minutes ago, April 25 said: there's no perpetuation going on. islam IS homophobic and this is coming from someone living my entire life in muslim counties, witnessing multiple harassments and reports of assaults myself. both by citizens and the authorities. one thing they all have in common and started it all? islam. these people don't magically turn homophobic, they've been brainwashed into it along with their religious outdated beliefs since a young age. and now that LGBT is advancing forward in the west you're hearing the mixed muslim western "influencers/journalists" suddenly claim that LGBT is totally fine and accepted because they haven't seen sh*t going on in their home countries and dont want to get dragged by the media. 5 minutes ago, alsemanche said: And before someone jumps to scream Islamophobia, I second this as someone living in an Arab country that has a good amount of Muslims in it. And let me add that Christianity isn't any better, despite how some try to paint it as such. I was raised Christian (but I'm not religious in the slightest now) and the levels of homophobia are sickeningly high. I am muslim but I truly understand why you could dislike and even hate Islam. I think that it’s hell living in those countries and being gay at the same time. I do think that they are not real muslims by slightest but I truly see and understand the reasons behind the outrage. I think I’d feel the same if I lived there and if I was part of LGBT community. But I also truly don’t think that anyone who is hating on someone for being gay is not a real muslim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Honour killing. What a disgusting phrase. So heartbreaking. "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regina George 59,387 Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, OMonster said: Thanks for answering That's good to hear. I'm guessing you're in a western country, right? Would you say the majority of muslims in your age and in your country are accepting (or tolerant) of LGBTQ identities? I live in Europe and unfortunately I can’t say that.. Most of uneducated fake “muslims” are bigoted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Focus 2,456 Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, Regina George said: I am muslim but I truly understand why you could dislike and even hate Islam. I think that it’s hell living in those countries and being gay at the same time. I do think that they are not real muslims by slightest but I truly see and understand the reasons behind the outrage. I think I’d feel the same if I lived there and if I was part of LGBT community. But I also truly don’t think that anyone who is hating on someone for being gay is not a real muslim. Do you live in a muslim country / a place where being LGBT can get you killed or jailed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horny Chicken 10,935 Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 All my Muslim friends were homophobic before they met me. I beat it out of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regina George 59,387 Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 1 minute ago, April 25 said: Do you live in a muslim country / a place where being LGBT can get you killed or jailed? I do live in predominantly muslim country but it’s in Europe and no being gay here would not get you killed or jailed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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