Trump wanted new stimulus check, aides prevented it

[Jill 31,812]

1 minute ago, jimmytimestep said:

Ok. So, do you rent? Do you own your home? Who do you know with goblets of cash that leases to you? 

Regardless, what do you suggest?

How does the middle/lower middle class break away from these ‘money hungry assholes’? I’m sure the millions in the US that can’t afford a down payment would love to know. And I’m sure struggling landlords that can’t afford their payments to the bank but don’t feel they should be/aren’t legally able to collect from tenants would love to know as well.

I ask you with an open mind and spirit; I’m not trying to fight. I do believe the commercial real estate realm is long overdue for a rehaul and has been crushing human beings worldwide for decades, as those with billions are able dictate residential prices by means of nothing else but proximity. I see the problem, but am not sure what action can/should be taken. 

Housing is a universal human right and as such, I believe it should be controlled directly by the government. No intermediaries, and the costs of utilities and such should be arranged depending on the context of each area.

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3 minutes ago, Jill said:

Housing is a universal human right and as such, I believe it should be controlled directly by the government. No intermediaries, and the costs of utilities and such should be arranged depending on the context of each area.

I applaud you; and I don’t disagree.

However, I think that saying what we or anybody else believes is one thing; dismantling and restructuring real estate, the literal first societal economic construct in history, is gonna take a lot more than that.

For decades, people fought for their right to own the land they live on (problematic in and of itself). To suggest the government should control it and that we should surrender those rights is also problematic; not in intention, but in practicality. Conflict would inevitably happen, and we’d have another war or some equatable nightmare, which in the end would only fuel the need for resources from the top, which doesn’t solve the problem and only would make it worse.

i suppose I say all of this in the hopes that we can put our brains toward a system that compromises in some ways, but always puts human life and welfare first.

I am pessimistic this will happen in my lifetime. (And I just started my second go around the universe with Saturn).

@Jill for president xo

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3 hours ago, Cookie Woman said:

More Trump family members trying for office

Ivanka wants to be Gov. of FL.

[Jill 31,812]

20 minutes ago, jimmytimestep said:

I applaud you; and I don’t disagree.

However, I think that saying what we or anybody else believes is one thing; dismantling and restructuring real estate, the literal first societal economic construct in history, is gonna take a lot more than that.

For decades, people fought for their right to own the land they live on (problematic in and of itself). To suggest the government should control it and that we should surrender those rights is also problematic; not in intention, but in practicality. Conflict would inevitably happen, and we’d have another war or some equatable nightmare, which in the end would only fuel the need for resources from the top, which doesn’t solve the problem and only would make it worse.

i suppose I say all of this in the hopes that we can put our brains toward a system that compromises in some ways, but always puts human life and welfare first.

I am pessimistic this will happen in my lifetime. (And I just started my second go around the universe with Saturn).

@Jill for president xo

Of course that won't happen with the draft of a single law or the will of a single president. It's a long term goal, but you asked how I would change it and that's how I would. However, other changes are required for us to get there that don't necessarily align with your question or the housing market, that's why I didn't mention them. For example, in this case, such a change in housing policy requires a change in the conditions of the country or territory in which you want to implement it. In the case of the US, we can start with expanding the welfare state to accommodate the needs of the people in a more amplified way, so to speak. Organize campaigns that could result in bigger and bigger taxes to the wealthy, money that would then be spent on this expansion. That could give us a few more years of time in which we could further advance with other projects, like for example, increasing the size of the public sector and start allowing the government to enter the real estate market. I don't really know the specifics because this would require a more in-depth look and access to the tools you'll have at your disposal when the time comes. But it is a multi-generational project, for sure, that could advance A LOT by expanding the welfare state. The alternative is, of course, revolution, which is faster, but it won't happen soon here in the US due to the state of the left, basically lol

sorry if I didn't make sense, I'm a little tired 

[Jill 31,812]

23 minutes ago, jimmytimestep said:

I applaud you; and I don’t disagree.

However, I think that saying what we or anybody else believes is one thing; dismantling and restructuring real estate, the literal first societal economic construct in history, is gonna take a lot more than that.

For decades, people fought for their right to own the land they live on (problematic in and of itself). To suggest the government should control it and that we should surrender those rights is also problematic; not in intention, but in practicality. Conflict would inevitably happen, and we’d have another war or some equatable nightmare, which in the end would only fuel the need for resources from the top, which doesn’t solve the problem and only would make it worse.

i suppose I say all of this in the hopes that we can put our brains toward a system that compromises in some ways, but always puts human life and welfare first.

I am pessimistic this will happen in my lifetime. (And I just started my second go around the universe with Saturn).

@Jill for president xo

Something that I should add is that I'm not proposing government should controll ALL land (altho I support that), I'm saying the government should expand its presence in the real estate market so as to eventually dominate it. This can be started with a few public housing projects here and there, which of course could be hard to sell as an idea given the current climate, so that's why I would approach the matter step by step like I said on my previous comment.

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36 minutes ago, JusKeepBreathin said:

Ivanka wants to be Gov. of FL.

And Trumpets want her to be the first female president 

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@Morphine Prince Omg Daddy Trump was gonna come through with the money for us!  

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12 hours ago, Cookie Woman said:

I mean... it's really easy to just say this, and they know this is what's going to immediately gain him favor with everyone, red or blue.

Oh... we thought this was supposed to make people look upon him favorably???

 

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Mitch McConnell cost Trump the election

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13 hours ago, Jill said:

Is this the DeEp sTaTe  Wtf

Lol more like his aides knew that if he made that demand (which would never pass), it would be the GOP on their heels and negotiations into a blender of sh*t. *I* might be in favor of a $2000 stimulus check, but if that talking point came from Trump it would just complicate the negotiations and basically get us nothing. The Dems would agree with him but yell him down saying it’s for vanity (though it probably is), the GOP would balk at the price but not be able to come up with a good reason why not that would be satisfactory, and the MAGA fans would scream about how Trump is trying to do the most, the GOP has let them down, and the Dems only care about hating Trump. Then the GOP would lose the run-offs in Georgia and the senate.

Basically, the aides prevented the negotiations from becoming an even bigger sh*t storm than they already are.

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10 hours ago, Jill said:

Housing is a universal human right and as such, I believe it should be controlled directly by the government. No intermediaries, and the costs of utilities and such should be arranged depending on the context of each area.

Ooh this fire take. Have you seen the Singapore model? Its quite a serve. Unfortunately, the American government has a lot of trust to build before they can just do this, but I think its a great idea. Its bad people who ruin government... not the government itself. 

 

1 hour ago, bionic said:

Mitch McConnell cost Trump the election

Yup! Not him being all anti-survival cheques before the election, and suddenly realizing its the key to win GA  L. M. A. O. Where was he before the election? Mitch’s one good move was helping to cost Trump the election 😋😋

[Jill 31,812]

4 hours ago, StarstruckIllusion said:

Ooh this fire take. Have you seen the Singapore model? Its quite a serve. Unfortunately, the American government has a lot of trust to build before they can just do this, but I think its a great idea. Its bad people who ruin government... not the government itself. 

100% agree. And I'm not that familiar with their model, I will check the video out. Thanks!

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I dont believe it. I think this is just his aides trying to make him look good here in the last moments of his Presidency. I bet he was just sitting there watching Newsmax and shatting himself when someone recommended this. He's done anyways.