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Official Discussion Thread: U.S Presidential Election 2020


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11 minutes ago, Sloansabbith said:

No Middle America is not stupid. What we have is a generational problem that trickled down from Reagan. Ronald Reagan ignited the socially conservative religious people who felt left behind by blue collar democrats and Rockefeller republicans. They have never gone away and while it’s getting better, they have passed down their ideas to their children. They are one issue voters (abortion) and will vote for Satan himself if there were to be an “R” next to his name. 

So Trump comes in and automatically gets those votes, but he also capitalizes on the working class midwesterners who loved Barack Obama but ultimately felt left behind by him and that he didn’t keep his promises.

Trump also had an easy opponent in Hillary Clinton who has been hated by women of a certain age since 1992.

It’s easy to just write off Trump supporters as horrible racist people, and many of them are, but it’s a lot more nuanced than that. He represents an F U to career politicians and the establishment. But it’s all a lie. It’s kind of like a bunch of posers discovering the Ramone’s greatest hits and thinking they are now part of punk rock. 

As the culture shifts in America and smaller big cities become more cosmopolitan and interesting, you will see less and less of this.

It’s happening in Texas, AZ and Georgia.

The biggest problem with Middle Americans isn’t that they think abortion is murder or that they eat at the Olive Garden for a big night out. Or even how the vote. It’s that they don’t believe there is anything more attainable outside of that. Making fun of them and calling them stupid isn’t the way to change their minds and show them a different past to a world of new ideas.  

I agree with you to some extent. I think this reasoning could've worked in 2016 (and it did work in 2016), but in 2020, I just don't think that's the case anymore.

"He represents an F U to career politicians and the establishment." — At first, yes, he did. That's largely why he won. People were/are tired of the establishment and they wanted change. But now, 4 years later, he is literally the epitome of the establishment. He wanted to "drain the swamp," but he just made it worse. If people still voted for him in 2020 because they thought he was "anti-establishment," then they're just objectively wrong.

"Making fun of them and calling stupid isn't the way to change their minds and show them a different past to a world of new ideas." — But when you do try to show them new ideas and new perspectives, many of them just brush it off. This whole "we belong together" rhetoric is exactly what Joe Biden ran on, and he's going to barely win the election. And then if you have more progressive politicians like Bernie or AOC, they'll scream "SOCIALIST!" or "COMMUNIST!" every 10 seconds even though they really don't understand what that means. 

You can definitely have sympathy for voters. That's something that should be encouraged more, but sympathy can only go so far when you have 68+ million people actively voting for the candidate who's single handedly ruined so much about this country that already was far from perfect to begin with. 

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1 minute ago, Epione said:

Is it still possible to get Georgia? I see 99% votes are counted. :bear:

It is possible but it won't happen. It would basically mean that ALL the votes left are for Biden

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1 minute ago, KEVIN STEVE said:

At this point, LG7 

Or 8.   At this point, I'm just frustrated.

I live outside the space time continuum.
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Just now, Ronk said:

Or 8.   At this point, I'm just frustrated.

Imagine LG8 being released before R9 though, the disaster:fail:

But yeah, it's frustrating 

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AVeryGagaHolyDick
1 minute ago, Dennnis said:

This is taking longer than the Babyon early version 

At least we'll have the results one day

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buzzkill
3 minutes ago, KEVIN STEVE said:

It is possible but it won't happen. It would basically mean that ALL the votes left are for Biden

Not all votes. Biden need a 66% - 33% of the remaining votes to flip GA, that’s why they haven’t called it on trump yet

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ToxicHot

We are stronger UNITED!! :firega:

 

dOnT sAd ReAcT mE 2 bE sHaDy i WiLL RePoRt U!!1!
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buzzkill
Just now, ToxicHot said:

We are stronger UNITED!! :firega:

 

This moderated democrats talk again while trump is inciting riot :bear:

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ToxicHot
3 minutes ago, buzzkill said:

This moderated democrats talk again while trump is inciting riot :bear:

Lmao what a sore loser :ladyhaha:

dOnT sAd ReAcT mE 2 bE sHaDy i WiLL RePoRt U!!1!
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1 minute ago, ToxicHot said:

Lmao what a sore loser :ladyhaha:

What? :bear:

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