Elon Musk said that it was a huge mistake to impose sweeping lockdowns

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Remember when people likens him to Tony Stark when he really is Dr. Doom 

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50 minutes ago, BornAsUnic0rn said:

Now with all of this I agree with.

 

But the lockdown would have been  preventable, if the western world would have reacted accordingly, and with that I mean especially stricter & faster. The mass hysteria also was extremely unhelpful, and there was not a lot done to prevent it.  Ultimately building mistrust and disbelief about the whole situation in a lot of people, and the effects of the lockdown will be felt for generations, sociologically, economically and even medically. 

 

I agree. So many people screwed up from the WHO to the CDC. I think if we would’ve had a handle on things immediately we could have avoided lockdowns. 

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Elon Musk is not a scientist or engineer, he's a businessman first and foremost. He doesn't do the work at Tesla he just swindles the investors and the government for subsidies which prop up his consistently under delivering company on the promise that one day they'll make a product that people will buy.

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3 hours ago, xKorix said:

Elon Musk is not a scientist or engineer, he's a businessman first and foremost. He doesn't do the work at Tesla he just swindles the investors and the government for subsidies which prop up his consistently under delivering company on the promise that one day they'll make a product that people will buy.

People really do buy Tesla cars, as fast as Tesla can build them. Whether the company is profitable is another question, but yes, they make a product that people will buy.

But yeah, Musk himself is... ugh.

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20 hours ago, Florin said:

Well. He lives in California. Check what kind of restrictions they had for 7 months compared to your state.

So, here’s what I would say to that:

1:  It is not apparent that Elon was referring to just California’s lockdowns, which is already irresponsible of him, as lockdowns were conducted in so many different ways by different states and localities, and almost none of them were as severe as California’s.  So to paint “lockdowns” with a broad brush is not responsible.

2:  Looking at the coronavirus timeline in California, it appears that the first locality to start to restrict gatherings(note that this is not a lockdown), began around March 3rd.  Business restrictions, in the form of a reduction in capacity, began around March 15th.  March 16th marked the first shelter in place(lockdown) order, covering 7 Bay Area counties.  On March 19, the governor extended the lockdown statewide.  Now, looking down the timeline, it appears that after the wave of serious lockdowns and shelter in place orders, non-essential businesses began to be allowed to reopen as early as May 7th, and early June for high-risk businesses, so that would make the lockdown at most 3 months long.  Granted, this is longer than the longest lockdown in my state, but only by one month, so my experience is not astronomically different from Californians.

3:  Despite the California lockdown lasting only about 1/3 longer than my state’s, it, along with a more aggressive testing plan and increased business restrictions, has thus far resulted in a 1.9% fatality rate in California, versus a 5.4% fatality rate in my state.

4:  It’s true that in some areas, the lifting of restrictions was rolled back at a few points as numbers began to spike.  However, none of these periods, from what I can find, represent an extension of full lockdown for any extended period of time.

5:  And finally, if we compare different localities within California itself, San Francisco, which is California’s 12th most populous county, and which implemented by far one of the most restrictive and earliest lockdowns, is currently 33rd in the list of cases per population.

I don’t think lockdowns are the perfect solution, but they are a rapid response method that is fairly straightforward to implement, and have been shown to produce results.  The experience we’ve gained as a society from this event should help us prepare for any future epidemics so that we don’t have to put such severe measures in place; as contact tracing and more rapid deployment of testing sites can be implemented faster.  I think we also need to work to address the societal system we have in the US that causes people to become suicidal if their job is suspended for several months, or place the fear of losing their health insurance over the actual health of vulnerable people.

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