Bt1 5,213 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregJA 5,536 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Be interested to see if their approach turns out to be the “best” in the... context... with taking it on full force. ‘we are definitely having a second wave here in Canada - looks like it will be worse BUT like everywhere deaths are waaaaaay down since we’ve figured stuff out which is great! (And keeping the vulnerable safe) Mr. No Award Winner 2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdX 2,901 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 this is indeed interesting... meanwhile just across the bridge in Denmark - where restrictions have been quite strict at times - numbers are going up and up all the time forcing new restrictions... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted September 18, 2020 Author Share Posted September 18, 2020 9 minutes ago, GregJA said: Be interested to see if their approach turns out to be the “best” in the... context... with taking it on full force. ‘we are definitely having a second wave here in Canada - looks like it will be worse BUT like everywhere deaths are waaaaaay down since we’ve figured stuff out which is great! (And keeping the vulnerable safe) When was the last time when a politician admitted he was wrong? No one will look at who did it best for a long time. The pressure is so big, considering that 90% of the world imposed lockdowns , that Sweden is starting to pretend internationally that it had lockdowns, which clearly isnt the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 i’m so grateful, maybe our strategy was right all along but it’s up to the health organization to do other restrictions if needed now when school is starting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio 5,088 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Herd immunity will always have been a success. Sweden did it right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregJA 5,536 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Florin said: When was the last time when a politician admitted he was wrong? No one will look at who did it best for a long time. The pressure is so big, considering that 90% of the world imposed lockdowns , that Sweden is starting to pretend internationally that it had lockdowns, which clearly isnt the case. That is so true Mr. No Award Winner 2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonky 671 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Good job Tegnell! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted September 18, 2020 Author Share Posted September 18, 2020 45 minutes ago, Rio said: Herd immunity will always have been a success. Sweden did it right There is still a maybe. We will see in the next 3 months, if covid has seasons like the flu. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ristretto 883 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Of course we did it right. Why did everyone seem to think a virus would be eliminated by locking everyone in? As soon as people got out again, a second wave would be inevitable. And especially in greedy countries like the UK where they also have to rely on tourism because they have a ****ed up economy. So they basically imported the virus again after maintaining it. Sweden outsold. Lemme be a patriot for once xxxxx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Clown 539 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Rio said: Herd immunity will always have been a success. Sweden did it right Exept this is not expained by "herd immunity". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 How can anyone call success when so many people died... also they did have and still have some restrictions: FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 172,545 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Rio said: Herd immunity will always have been a success. Sweden did it right And all it took was a measly sacrifice of 6,000 people If the US were to use herd immunity as a "strategy" (if you can call it that), we'd need 60%-80% of the population to contract it and form anti-bodies. 60% of 328 million means 196.8 million people have to catch the virus and form anti-bodies. Even if they don't die they could be dealing with permanent or long lasting effects and that many people being that ill will DEFINITELY overwhelm our healthcare system entirely leading to more actual deaths. At the very lowest current estimates of covid mortality, 0.6%, that still adds up to 1.1 million deaths just in the US alone. That's without the full hospitals. And without considering the fact that millions of Americans are poor and uninsured which means even more deaths. That's not acceptable. Anyone pushing herd immunity as a solution is either ignorant of reality or extremely callous and has no concern for human life Like the CDC director said - wear a mask. That's more effective than any vaccine we could pull out our butts by the end of this year. Whimsical bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted September 18, 2020 Author Share Posted September 18, 2020 Just now, PartySick said: And all it took was a measly sacrifice of 6,000 people If the US were to use herd immunity as a "strategy" (if you can call it that), we'd need 60%-80% of the population to contract it and form anti-bodies. 60% of 328 million means 196.8 million people have to catch the virus and form anti-bodies. Even if they don't die, 78 million of them (40%) could be dealing with permanent or long lasting effects and that many people being that ill will DEFINITELY overwhelm our healthcare system entirely leading to more actual deaths. At the very lowest current estimates of covid mortality, 0.6%, that still adds up to 1.1 million deaths just in the US alone. That's without the full hospitals. And without considering the fact that millions of Americans are poor and uninsured which means even more deaths. That's not acceptable. Anyone pushing herd immunity as a solution is either ignorant of reality or extremely callous and has no concern for human life Like the CDC director said - wear a mask. That's more effective than any vaccine we could pull out our butts by the end of this year. As u can clearly see u dont need 60%of the population to get it. Let's be clear about it : Sweden has less deaths per capita than US and places like New York, Pennsylvania, Michigan, all those places that lockdowned. New York sacrificed people when they send covid patients back to nursing homes? Sweden was wrong with nursing homes and it had the "bad luck" to have a national holiday when covid was spreading. Other than that, they were right with everything, as we can clearly see now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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