The mistake i think gaga is making

[HeavyMetalLover 16]

We have no idea what sort of restrictions/changes/mishaps Gaga’s team faced when putting the VMAs medley together. I’m sure it was very stressful and overly complicated due to COVID. It’s amazing how good the performance was, flaws and all, and a miracle we got it at all. It seems our lifespan for gratitude is all too short. Do we prefer to complain? Are we brats? I truly wonder sometimes. 

[MiQuenDroid 5,059]

28 minutes ago, oslo said:

Askip  wasn’t expecting to read this expression here any time soon 

I also think the VMA performance was underwhelming. There could have been so much more visual effects to really take us to Chromatica, more props, better outfits (they weren’t that bad though), and sometimes the vocals weren’t that good (especially during Stupid Love on piano). I tried not to expect anything from the performance but I really thought it would be more spectacular, that she’d use more of virtual reality and green screens. I thought Doja Cat performance was visually more Chromatica-esque...

If we have CTV one day, I hope the experience will be more captivating. I can’t stop thinking of what Björk made for the visuals of her last album, this is just otherworldly, ethereal, cosmic and non-human. It’s impeccable.

I think so far we lacked of consistency in this era, the concept is very underwhelming so far, despite the album being great, which is the most important of course.

The era will be really long, we'll get fed soon I think.

(and yes I love using French expressions here lmao) 

[RenegAde 19,126]

16 minutes ago, HeavyMetalLover said:

We have no idea what sort of restrictions/changes/mishaps Gaga’s team faced when putting the VMAs medley together. I’m sure it was very stressful and overly complicated due to COVID. It’s amazing how good the performance was, flaws and all, and a miracle we got it at all. It seems our lifespan for gratitude is all too short. Do we prefer to complain? Are we brats? I truly wonder sometimes. 

I dont know how i can politely state my issues and people still sum it up to ingratitude .

[RenegAde 19,126]

42 minutes ago, starsdontlipsing said:

Certain elements of the Enigma show could certainly fall under the category of rushed in terms of the storyline, but her ability to put on a show made up for it. Same with the VMAs. 

Exaclty  my point .

[paradox 4,568]

I think we need to collectively stop expecting Gaga to go above and beyond with every single thing she does, it's really not fair on her. I'm sure the pressure on her to keep outdoing herself and to come up with extremely high concept content isn't healthy physically or mentally. She pretty much did all of that for an entire decade. She's got many incredible performances from the past 12 years that we can go back on and watch any time we want tbh...

The performance was great IMO, + especially so since we're still in the midst of a pandemic.

Sorry if what I wrote has been said or whatever, haven't read the thread yet 

[HeavyMetalLover 16]

2 minutes ago, RenegAde said:

I dont know how i can politely state my issues and people still sum it up to ingratitude .

That’s how it reads, luv.

Let’s be real - some LMs will always find something to criticize, no matter what she does. She could transform into a dragon and fart flames while flying through the clouds, and she would still be criticized for farting slightly out of time. But let’s ignore that she transformed into a f*cking dragon. 

[brucee 1,690]

sorry for being catty. I was also trying to be fun with the 'doom glitter math metal part'. 

Your opinion is valid. Though I really want to make light on the fact that a live performance is something very organic. it can never be replicated the same nor a hundred percent perfect. You can even master it in rehearsal and something messes up in live. Her style is risky all the time she dances and then has to go on a piano and recover fast. What she does is hard so yeah it's not always pure perfection. But for me the flaws are a good thing, because what makes 'em great is how the artist goes back on track. 

[Jester 6,302]

I miss BTW era performances, stunts, stage design, props tbh

[RenegAde 19,126]

1 hour ago, alicefromabove said:

Well, I will politely disgree with you as many of these statements seem to be assumptions more than facts based on certain things on the performance.

First of all, people seem to forget we are STILL in the middle of a pandemic. I know you'll say " Hey, that's not an excuse". But you simply cannot expect these shows to be perfect 'cause it's really hard to make it happen given these conditions. Second, this is a dance album. It's really hard to sing and dance at the same time. Most artists who do both choose to have a recording and lipsync to it (MJ, Madonna or even Beyoncé). That's the way they have had those impeccable performances. Gaga, on the other side, chooses to do both at the same time. Therefore, her performance won't be as flawless or as perfect as people would expect. It will sound shaky, or out of breath sometimes. I won't judge that choice as she's the one in charge. But she does it so good anyway. And her not dancing perfectly...Well, she's not the best dancer. She is a singer songwriter first as she's always said.

While I don't consider this performance to be one of her best, I do think she did a pretty solid job given the circumstances. I do miss her theatrical outcome, as it's been quite some time since she's done something like that. But this was a good performance. 

I respect your opinion, but to say she doesn't rehearse enough is simply not true. She still does her job. 

I really hate to do this but take the weeknds performance for instance did you see the production value. Even tho gagas performamce was better overall i dont think being in a pandemic is an excuse for the stage design and lighting . 

[Sherry 4,715]

2 hours ago, RenegAde said:

Before i share my opinion  i want to say that everyone is free to feel any type of way they want to feel about the VMA performance . I have always defended Gaga from the irrational rude complaint but i think i feel a sense of security  to share my thoughts between us as fellow fans respectfully within this site .

While i think the performance is good  and it definitely has some praise worthy qualities like gaga's 1000% stage presence /energy and her ever amazing live vocals, i feel conflicted about the performance personally . I find myself unable to watch it twice . Even tho it was probably the best of the vma night .

She had months to plan this and had 9 minutes to give us the most mind blowing performance of our lives,and maybe she did that for some of you but she didnt for me . I just think the performance could have been way better and here is why.

I think gaga is prioritising being an "artiste" over being a "performer". We can see from her enigma shows and this VMA medley that she is focusing more on being a flawless singer and dynamic dancer on stage  than being the gaga that we always knew would be to entertaining and leave our wigs snatched . While she will always have the best stage presense of any artist alive today ,i feel like she does not rehearse enough to be as flawless with the vocal and dance steps like she intends to . 

I have 2 problems with her focusing more on being flawless with the singing and dancing. number 1 is that i dont think she rehearses enough  which causes the breaks in choreo like i said above etc. and that may sterm from her working with friends  and also that may be the best option for her physical and mental health 

My second issue is that because she is trying to  be the that "artiste"  things like stage design , constume ,lighting and mind blowing stunts have taken a major back seat since  her superbowl performance . The VMA lighting was dull and dissapointing for me apart from stupud love . The stage design was basically non existent and it was pretty much devoid of the gaga stunts we all love like changing outfits right before your eyes and jumping from rooftops .and offcourse i dont expect that from every performance but for me the VMA lacked concept.

I will always love gaga and support her music even if she farts into a microphone . But i feel like within us , we should be able to admit when a performance is far from satisfactory and encourgage her to do better (not bully her)  because we know  her true capabilites and the VMA was Little Bit bit below her standards 

(I wont condone any unnecessary rude comments towards gaga or myself please )

 

[Enigma 7,182]

The stage design was her best in terms of award performances as far as I can remember... tons of details and Easter eggs in there. Costumes and visuals were MILES ahead of anything she’s done since ARTPOP. Literally this was the most Gaga she’s been since then... what am I missing 

[HeavyMetalLover 16]

5 minutes ago, RenegAde said:

I really hate to do this but take the weeknds performance for instance did you see the production value. Even tho gagas performamce was better overall i dont think being in a pandemic is an excuse for the stage design and lighting . 

The stage design and lighting was amazing though.  The Weeknd’s performance was cool, but Gaga’s was more interesting and more exciting overall.

[The Fame Monster 4,215]

What monsters tend to forget is that

1. She’s a human being
2. There is more in life than one’s career and work
3. Let her do her thing in her own way and stop complaining and thinking about other people’s life choices, career choices and flaws
4. Yes, she is a public figure but yet she’s also a human. Let her do her art, her music, and if you don’t like it, leave.

[Sister 9,907]

I feel like Gaga and her team gave us the best that they could with limited workings during a pandemic. Gaga was here to entertain and she did that. It would have been a bigger performance if we weren't in a pandemic and things were normal. I feel like anything "off" was due to the pandemic, honestly. This show was even an experiment of trying to still put on a live show during this mess, I'd say it went off pretty well, the best that it could have, still missing parts and enthusiasm. 

[Kitana 1,824]

1 hour ago, Suuus said:

Exactly this the op seems to forget that gaga couldnt reverse properly because of the pandemic 

i see you always writing "reverse". it is "rehearse"