Reginald 13,841 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 22 minutes ago, Werk said: RedOne is also finally charting again in 2020!!!!!!! The SLAYAGE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HausOfAntonio 8,021 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 20 minutes ago, CHROMATICON said: Torn is too gay and too dated to be a hit in 2020. Sis so is King and Queens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rifek 51,753 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Wait. it debuted on Hot 100 exactly on the 2nd anniversary of SBP iconic ❗️ IG: thebumblebee__ ❗️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifeasgeorge 9,427 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Ngl if this climbs into the top 40 I will be shook good for her after all this hate she gets from this fanbase for no reason live and let live Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevana229 1,890 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 I didn't realize Kings and Queens has the same melody as that Bon Jovi song Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagaxsebert 5,804 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 What’s up with these new remixes? Such clever marketing. Both the K&Q & Levitating remix were that bad they made me stream the original more to cleanse my ears. OT: Congrats Ava, the song is a bop and a half Used to be HighRoad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustJames 1,041 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 The idea that a new artist has to prove demand for their music before getting the green light for an album is so backwards. As much as I love the concept behind an 'era' as revolutionized by our queen, not every 18 - 24 year old is going to have the right vocals + stage presence + writing + personal style, etc. to become an overnight brand. Artists like Christina / Britney developed into seasoned pop-stars capable of iconic eras because they were able to release debut albums that were just a mix of what they could offer. 'Christina Aguilera' produced 3 #1 hits with no connection between them or common theme; but, they showed she could put out bops, ballads, etc., and built a base to allow her sophomore album to be a more artist statement. Despite a horribly chosen lead single, 'Stripped' was a successful followup and its singles (excl. Dirrty) supported its message / theme. Sweet But Psycho proved Ava Max was marketable and it's a shame that once it blew up, she didn't have a body of work with songs like Salt / Torn to keep people interested as she promoted SBP / when So Am I was selected as the 2nd single. Those decisions - focusing on SBP + choosing So Am I - were clearly out of her hands and shouldn't have prevented either Salt or Torn from having a shot at being Top 40 hits. Salt, Torn, and Kings & Queens are all above-average pop songs / no worse than what's being put out by others like Dua Lipa. New Rules was as big as SBP, and Salt / Torn / K&Q would've been as successful as Break My Heart at the very least if attached to a proper album and promo plan, IMO. I'm glad she's finally finding some official success, because it must be extremely frustrating to be in such a lose-lose situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillieGOAT 5,237 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Happy for Ava but even happier for her stans- y’all earned this one for sure Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVeryGagaHolyDick 26,247 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Omg, I expected #99 or something And it rised kinda organically, so it may rise even more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrenaliner 3,809 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Torn was a hit in Europe When will USA follow? November? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 52,975 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 ended Ava Whacks 💕 Congrats Ava Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nartiad 363 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 I'm so happy for her but Kings & Queens is my least favorite from her. Torn and Salt deserve much more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yes and 4,884 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Adrenaliner said: Torn was a hit in Europe When will USA follow? November? never Did you think I'd show up in a limousine? No Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yes and 4,884 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 13 hours ago, JustJames said: Artists like Christina / Britney developed into seasoned pop-stars capable of iconic eras because they were able to release debut albums that were just a mix of what they could offer. 'Christina Aguilera' produced 3 #1 hits with no connection between them or common theme; but, they showed she could put out bops, ballads, etc., and built a base to allow her sophomore album to be a more artist statement. Despite a horribly chosen lead single, 'Stripped' was a successful followup and its singles (excl. Dirrty) supported its message / theme. The comparison is incorrect. Britney/Christina had a career like 20 years ago, too many things have changed. Ava was supposed to release her debut album after a while of So Am I, but the song underperformed with the rest of singles, but K&K became huge, so that's why they release the album now. Did you think I'd show up in a limousine? No Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagadonna 10,801 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 You may say what you want, but her songs are pop gems Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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