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25 Reasons to Support Joe Biden....

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@HorusRa2 breaking down BS talking points and spreading nothing but facts, like always :legend:

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1 minute ago, Spyro said:

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That's really not a reason either. Not only do we only need a majority in the senate in order to prevent Trump from appointing whoever he wants, as we have seen recently there's no guarantee that the conservative judge would be as bad as feared. Roberts has had some decent votes lately as well as others. There's also no guarantee that whoever Biden appoints is going to be all that great either. I should also tell you that RBG has some bad votes as a justice herself. 

 

So basing your vote entirely on something you can't predict the outcome of maybe isn't the only reason you should vote one way or the other. 

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justhislife
15 minutes ago, Faysalaaa said:

Im Gay but I dont care about Gay people getting married, I care about actual crimes being comitted..

Like Jailing Journalists, attacking whistleblowers, jailing civilians without a trial, creating a surveillance state, war crimes against Muslims, created slavery in libya, kicking people out of their homes to bail banks, destroying native americans land..

These are considered horrible things even by the standards of its time.

It's nice that you don't care about gay people getting married. But not all people hold that view. It's not just about the symbol of marriage. It's about the fact that it effectively put gay relationships as less than those of straight ones. It's that straight people were allowed tax breaks while gays weren't. It's that homosexuality was continuously stigmatized. This man actively supported nasty attitudes towards the LGBT community for over 20 years. And you do know this hate helped drive hate crimes towards the group? And imagine all the people who were enlisted but bullied out of service, losing their livelihoods once they were "exposed" for being gay. If they weren't beaten or killed. 

 

And even if you care about actual crimes, Joe got you covered with the Comprehensive Crime Control Act, which increased penalties for the cultivation, possession, and transfer of marijuana. He put people in jail for a very long time over a drug related crime, effectively stripping them not just of their lives but possibly forcing them to prison labor, taking their right to vote, and abusing their bodies in favor of a skewed census. He's behind a large portion of mass incarceration. And now that it's become popular he's coming to save the day in an effort to expunge records of those "criminals", but that cannot give them back the decades they lost to themselves, to their families, to their friends, and to their communities. 

5 minutes ago, QueenOfSaigon said:

Thats true. But lets not start with Trumps record or we will never finish this discussion.

But we're not talking about Trump, we're talking about Biden. 

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24 minutes ago, HorusRa2 said:

His tax plan is less progressive than even Hillary Clinton's plan in 2016. So, it would not be the most progressive tax code for generations.

 

 

 

I'm impressed, you know sooooo much, why aren't you on the ballot?

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15 minutes ago, HorusRa2 said:

That's really not a reason either. Not only do we only need a majority in the senate in order to prevent Trump from appointing whoever he wants, as we have seen recently there's no guarantee that the conservative judge would be as bad as feared. Roberts has had some decent votes lately as well as others. There's also no guarantee that whoever Biden appoints is going to be all that great either. I should also tell you that RBG has some bad votes as a justice herself. 

 

So basing your vote entirely on something you can't predict the outcome of maybe isn't the only reason you should vote one way or the other. 

We have a good shot at winning the senate itself.  RGB isn't perfect or Bidens picks will be either, but I'll take my chances a million times over.  That post wasn't necessarily saying to defend RGB (she's in no matter who is elected), but whoever is in 2021 will fill that seat.  You can't convince me that I wouldn't rather have Biden in to nominate court justices.  

Trump seemed utterly pissed after the last few high profile rulings last month.  Plus, Trumps next possible appointees don't sound too promising: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/07/trumps-next-supreme-court-list-could-be-really-extreme.html

 

Also has anyone considered who would be in Biden's cabinet?  Like the ideas of Andrew Yang or Elizabeth Warren being in aren't off the table.  Biden wasn't anyone's first choice, but he's giving some *whatever realistic* shot to start implementing some progressive ideas if we get a democrat majority.  Not to Bernie's extent, but at the very level much higher than we are today.  I do not mean to voter shame anyone, that's a crappy thing to do, but I don't know how much people don't realize how Biden has been helping with down ballot politicians who would've never had a shot if someone as well established as Biden wasn't at the top of the ticket.  Just some fruit for thought.

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7 minutes ago, rumours said:

Came here expecting @OG Gaga Stan sad reacts and was not disappointed 

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issa joke, I love @OG Gaga Stan

 

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3 minutes ago, justhislife said:

It's nice that you don't care about gay people getting married. But not all people hold that view. It's not just about the symbol of marriage. It's about the fact that it effectively put gay relationships as less than those of straight ones. It's that straight people were allowed tax breaks while gays weren't. It's that homosexuality was continuously stigmatized. This man actively supported nasty attitudes towards the LGBT community for over 20 years. And you do know this hate helped drive hate crimes towards the group? And imagine all the people who were enlisted but bullied out of service, losing their livelihoods once they were "exposed" for being gay. If they weren't beaten or killed. 

And even if you care about actual crimes, Joe got you covered with the Comprehensive Crime Control Act, which increased penalties for the cultivation, possession, and transfer of marijuana. He put people in jail for a very long time over a drug related crime, effectively stripping them not just of their lives but possibly forcing them to prison labor, taking their right to vote, and abusing their bodies in favor of a skewed census. He's behind a large portion of mass incarceration. And now that it's become popular he's coming to save the day in an effort to expunge records of those "criminals", but that cannot give them back the decades they lost to themselves, to their families, to their friends, and to their communities. 

But we're not talking about Trump, we're talking about Biden. 

I re edited my comment as I did not mean it that way. I do care about Gay marriage but alot of Liberals think saying your for Gay marriage is enough. There are much more serious issues and crimes that many people dont even consider like the ones I mentioned.

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8 minutes ago, TOSK said:

I'm impressed, you know sooooo much, why aren't you on the ballot?

Aww. When neoliberals don't have any excuses left they resort to condescension. I'm sorry that I put in the work to know what politician's records are. You know, I think that you could do the same if you really wanted to do so.   :yennefer:

 

p.s. @Spyro - I just mean to say that she shouldn't be the sole reason. I don't necessarily mind it being 'a' reason but certainty not 'the' reason. It's just too unpredictable. Biden's administration will not include Andrew Yang or Warren. You can be sure of that. I also think you are attributing the success that Biden is having with down ballot races as specific to Biden. I don't think that's true. I think what is more likely the case is that everybody knows its the republicans and trump administration that are the reason so many people are going to be homeless in the next 2 months and they're willing to take a chance on a democrat over letting the republicans sink the ship. So, I personally would suggest that any generic democrat would be winning w/o regard to Biden or Bernie or whoever led the ticket for the dems this go around. 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Spyro said:

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issa joke, I love @OG Gaga Stan

 

We stan @OG Gaga Stan in this house.

Also his new book is a thrilling read. Would highly recommend:

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I find it so laughable how people expect a candidate to be absolutely perfect and a saint their entire life. I was never a fan of Biden from the beginning, not because I hate him but mostly because he seemed a lot more moderate than the other Democratic candidates at the start of the primary races (and obviously, even though I support/ed Bernie, his views are/were too extreme, to the point where change would be more difficult to execute with Congress, moderates, etc.). But at this point the policies he’s pushing and the position he holds is a lot more important and crucial compared to Trump’s and his current administration’s. 

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22 minutes ago, HorusRa2 said:

 You know, I think that you could do the same if you really wanted to do so.   

I enjoy watching you flail away

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Only reason is because he’s not Trump. Don’t get it twisted. 

I don’t expect him to bring real change. Just a pause for the right wing lunatics that you center right liberals enable time after time. 

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35 minutes ago, HorusRa2 said:

Aww. When neoliberals don't have any excuses left they resort to condescension. I'm sorry that I put in the work to know what politician's records are. You know, I think that you could do the same if you really wanted to do so.   :yennefer:

 

p.s. @Spyro - I just mean to say that she shouldn't be the sole reason. I don't necessarily mind it being 'a' reason but certainty not 'the' reason. It's just too unpredictable'. Biden's administration will not include Andrew Yang or Warren. You can be sure of that. I also think you are attributing the success that Biden is having with down ballot races as specific to Biden. I don't think that's true. I think what is more likely the case is that everybody knows its the republicans and trump administration that are the reason so many people are going to be homeless in the next 2 months and they're willing to take a chance on a democrat over letting the republicans sink the ship. So, I personally would suggest that any generic democrat would be winning w/o regard to Biden or Bernie or whoever led the ticket for the dems this go around. 

 

 

I respect your view, but I see it a different way.  I feel my reason Bernie wouldn't necessarily helped as much as Biden, is because we know Joe.  And for that, Trump can't slam the label 'Liberal' or 'Socialist' as easy to Joe than to Bernie.  It didn't work in the southern governor races last year, it won't work on the presidential scale.  Absolutely no one believes those two things about Joe Biden, and that in itself is an advantage to Biden's campaign.  Bernie represents a lot of change, while Joe represents the status quo before Covid stroke.  These are fragile times, and I would argue that "more the old same" would work better than "we gotta do a lot of change".  I voted for Bernie in the primary, but I feel attacks on him would be way easier and damaging during fragile times.  Hate Trump all you want, but you can't deny he's an amazing public speaker and he's a pro at spreading false propaganda.  I try looking at this in the middle, but Bernie at the very least wouldn't give the large margin down ballots have at this moment.  If this was 2016, I would probably say the opposite and he'd do much better, but right now people just want to get back to how it was before than change.  

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32 minutes ago, HorusRa2 said:

Aww. When neoliberals don't have any excuses left they resort to condescension. I'm sorry that I put in the work to know what politician's records are. You know, I think that you could do the same if you really wanted to do so.   :yennefer:

 

p.s. @Spyro - I just mean to say that she shouldn't be the sole reason. I don't necessarily mind it being 'a' reason but certainty not 'the' reason. It's just too unpredictable. Biden's administration will not include Andrew Yang or Warren. You can be sure of that. I also think you are attributing the success that Biden is having with down ballot races as specific to Biden. I don't think that's true. I think what is more likely the case is that everybody knows its the republicans and trump administration that are the reason so many people are going to be homeless in the next 2 months and they're willing to take a chance on a democrat over letting the republicans sink the ship. So, I personally would suggest that any generic democrat would be winning w/o regard to Biden or Bernie or whoever led the ticket for the dems this go around. 

 

 

Also skip to 3:37 in this video, he "dances" around the answer. Not to say he's going to, but there's a chance..

 

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