Diamond Heart 4,400 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 Just now, Mariano said: You're so blinded by hate lol.. What do Shane's old stuff have to do with this particular incident? "Okay so let's say Shane is the most guilty in the dramageddon and deserves the most hate, cuz of his past behavior!!!" make it make sense. Shane shouldn't have even been mentioned by that bitch Tati AT ALL, she did what she did, it wasn't Shane's fault. Period. Because logic and common sense? Like i literally do not understand how you dont get that? Shane one of the biggest Youtubers ever beloved, adored, lovely guy, introvert, empath etc Video comes out revealing hes not the nice guy he pretends to be. People think hmm if hes like that behind the scenes....is he really like that? His older videos are looked at again, with many people realizing how awful hes always been. Not just awful, but racist, homophobic and his disgusting behavior towards children. They are shared and people react to it. People dont like it. People think hes gross. Its not that hard to grasp. but yeah 'WHAT ABOUT TATI' !? so transparent (again shes awful, they all are) Well if im 'blinded by hate' () Have fun trying not to feel guilty about liking a piece of **** youtuber, cause that is the only thing i get from your responses "GGD IS NOT FOR YOU" - Admin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariano 958 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, Diamond Heart said: Because logic and common sense? Like i literally do not understand how you dont get that? Shane one of the biggest Youtubers ever beloved, adored, lovely guy, introvert, empath etc Video comes out revealing hes not the nice guy he pretends to be. People think hmm if hes like that behind the scenes....is he really like that? His older videos are looked at again, with many people realizing how awful hes always been. Not just awful, but racist, homophobic and his disgusting behavior towards children. They are shared and people react to it. People dont like it. People think hes gross. Its not that hard to grasp. but yeah 'WHAT ABOUT TATI' !? so transparent (again shes awful, they all are) Well if im 'blinded by hate' () Have fun trying not to feel guilty about liking a piece of **** youtuber, cause that is the only thing i get from your responses As if I disagree with any of that, are u stupid? Do you realize that this topic is about the James Charles - Tati drama, right? Dummy. What did Shane do to James Charles is my question to you? Explain? By that logic we can also now start to hate on Harvey Weinstein and say that he is responsible for the video Tati released!!!! because he is a horrible human being!!!1 "Common sense" I don't like any of these people, your "drags" are so ****ing weak Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RahrahWitch 6,985 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 I'll never understand how people still to this day defend jeffree, He's a disgusting person, point blank period. If he was actually sorry he'd take accountability and go trough everything, not call everything a finger quoted "Situation" and try to sweep it all under the rug by saying sorry to James and throw about a whole lot of whatabouts to distract from it all. He's sorry he got caught. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagaschickens 4 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 8 hours ago, Hyoha said: She's 30? I thought she was 40, no shade She's 40. ﾘのひ ᄃﾑ刀'ｲ 尺乇ﾑり ｲんﾉ丂, ᄃﾑ刀 ﾘのひ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killa 17,464 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 Guys lets be honest, no one watches these 40 min videos and you just watch the thumbnail or click on the video for first second and read the comments😌 No drag no shade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 8 hours ago, Lighter said: Come on now, blaming others instead of owning up to your mistakes or fixing it with James Charles alone? So you’re just gonna accuse someone of being a predator because someone FED you information? Isn’t she 30 lmao. You can't be serious End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 76,419 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 8 hours ago, Lighter said: She said awww daddd I don’t want you to see me cry and all that. Then cut it. Cut it off. If you don’t want anyone to see your tears cut it. Get straight to the point. It’s the combination of that + the time she posted it that just doesn’t work for me. There’s a reason twitter made fun of her. And undoubtedly some of those were fake forced tears I can see it It was the timing that invalidate the sincerity for me, and the emotions lol But it’s kinda funny that all Jeffree does is say “I’m a changed person,” but then doesn’t actually show that he’s a changed person at all. Tati showed emotion in her video, and don’t get me wrong, that was obviously strategic as well, but Jeffree’s video was so straight faced that it was so off putting and distracting. Like, when he “apologized” to James...are you kidding me? That wasn’t an apology. That was like when your parents tell you to apologize to your sibling even though you know they’re in the wrong. Again, I’m not saying Tati is off the hook, and I don’t think that her video was great and fantastic, but if we’re comparing the two, then her’s was definitely more sincere. Also, him bringing up Breonna Taylor and the BLM movement? Definitely a manipulative move. Like, how are you able to criticize someone who brings up a good cause? You can’t because then it makes you look like an asshole. He knew that. 𝔊𝔬𝔬𝔡𝔟𝔶𝔢, ℑ'𝔩𝔩 𝔰𝔢𝔢 𝔶𝔬𝔲 𝔦𝔫 𝔪𝔶 𝔡𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔪𝔰 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcx 1,213 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Mariano said: As if I disagree with any of that, are u stupid? Do you realize that this topic is about the James Charles - Tati drama, right? Dummy. What did Shane do to James Charles is my question to you? Explain? By that logic we can also now start to hate on Harvey Weinstein and say that he is responsible for the video Tati released!!!! because he is a horrible human being!!!1 "Common sense" I don't like any of these people, your "drags" are so ****ing weak ...Did you even watch Tati’s video? People are bringing up Shane because she revealed that he played a big role in the situation behind the scenes. Shane said that James deserved to be falsely accused of being a predator because it humbled him. Shane told Tati that James was a monster with many victims and was hurting minors, which was a lie. Shane said he was going to interview victims of James Charles for his docuseries, but there were no victims to interview so that was also a lie. Shane said that he had evidence of James being a predator, but then it turned out that there wasn’t any; that too was a lie. Shane also used the drama in a trailer for the docuseries, blowing it up even more, and then never showed it in the actual series and just used it to cash in a check. He inserted himself into the situation. People have also said that Jeffree and Shane constantly trash talked about James behind the scenes, which speaks to their involvement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born This Way 1,789 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 The whole lot of them are terrible and just keep trying to get one over on each other. A literal wretched hive of scum and villainy. Run run with her top down baby she flies Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariano 958 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 2 hours ago, xcx said: ...Did you even watch Tati’s video? People are bringing up Shane because she revealed that he played a big role in the situation behind the scenes. Shane said that James deserved to be falsely accused of being a predator because it humbled him. Shane told Tati that James was a monster with many victims and was hurting minors, which was a lie. Shane said he was going to interview victims of James Charles for his docuseries, but there were no victims to interview so that was also a lie. Shane said that he had evidence of James being a predator, but then it turned out that there wasn’t any; that too was a lie. Shane also used the drama in a trailer for the docuseries, blowing it up even more, and then never showed it in the actual series and just used it to cash in a check. He inserted himself into the situation. People have also said that Jeffree and Shane constantly trash talked about James behind the scenes, which speaks to their involvement. yeah I am not saying Shane is completely innocent, but as you can see everything Shane was saying was direct reaction/response to what Jeffree and Tati were discussing and doing behind the scenes. Shane was just there being like "Omg I can interview victims" blah blah blah, u get what I mean? They painted him to be the mastermind, whereas it's clearly Jeffree and Tati, not Shane lol. Shane is all sorts of manipulative and fake, but in a different way that doesn't have much to do with this particular incident (dramageddon). With that said, Shane is so stupid for posting that twitter post attacking the community and for his dumb apology video. Honestly this is mainly why he got so much hate, it's his own fault, but I think people should still try to be more objective. If Jeffree is barely getting hate, then Shane surely did NOT deserve all of that for the James Charles mess, I hope u get what I mean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcx 1,213 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 28 minutes ago, Mariano said: yeah I am not saying Shane is completely innocent, but as you can see everything Shane was saying was direct reaction/response to what Jeffree and Tati were discussing and doing behind the scenes. Shane was just there being like "Omg I can interview victims" blah blah blah, u get what I mean? They painted him to be the mastermind, whereas it's clearly Jeffree and Tati, not Shane lol. Shane is all sorts of manipulative and fake, but in a different way that doesn't have much to do with this particular incident (dramageddon). With that said, Shane is so stupid for posting that twitter post attacking the community and for his dumb apology video. Honestly this is mainly why he got so much hate, it's his own fault, but I think people should still try to be more objective. If Jeffree is barely getting hate, then Shane surely did NOT deserve all of that for the James Charles mess, I hope u get what I mean. I understand what you’re saying, but Tati was not a mastermind in this. She said she only made the video because Shane and Jeffree were in her ear telling her about James’s victims and saying they’d come forward. As a victim herself, she said she felt it was her duty to say something. Therefore, I definitely think it was Shane and Jeffree that orchestrated all of this. She’s not innocent in this, but she’s been forgiven by James. Also, I have empathy for her because she has her own past with sexual assault so she felt that she had to say something. She even said in her video that she never was going to do a video until she met Shane Dawson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obobo 3,102 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 12 hours ago, Brecht said: I've seen wrong people on this forum but you sure are the worst one Sis, they're both terrible but Jebediah is THE MASTER MANIPULATOR of Youtube. Let's remember that Tati was involved in ZERO drama in her whole YouTube career, can't say the same for Jebediah. lol...are you sure about that... her and her husband allegedly have a criminal past of white collar crime. I heard her husband has signed a lot of shady deals. Their latest gummy vitamin scam brand became incorporated a week after she uploaded that “bye sister” video last year. If you look up one of the partners for her company, he has a sketchy LinkedIn history - saying he’s a doctor from Harvard but when you look into it, he’s none of that. He just works in Harvard LOL. If you look into the “ spiritual charity” that Tati speaks about in her latest video - its really cultish. It’s not even in any known religious denomination. So many drama channels that found this posted it years ago and her attorneys would tell them to take it down - you can still see the “ghost pages” with a quick google search “tati westbrook criminal past”. She is a manipulator probably even worse than Jeffree Star because she’s hides it so well with a veil of tears and illusion of naivety. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloody g 31,746 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 I can't stand Tati, my gut tells me no one should trust her 『𝐟𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐜𝐚𝐧𝐧𝐨𝐭 𝐛𝐞 𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐞𝐝』 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NORMANDIE 1,586 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 He is trash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tylertremallose 1,379 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 9 hours ago, Xoxo Adriana said: it wasn’t mainstream or popular 10 years ago let alone in our parents time so are you sure? look at majority of makeup tutorials from 2012 prior. even celebrity makeup tutorials most of the time didn’t use fake lashes. look at most teen girls avoiding the “ugly phase” majority of us 90s and 00s teens went through. girls my age didn’t start getting into fake lashes till like 2015/16. contouring/highlighting didn’t become a trend till like 2015 despite it for sure existing for decades amongst celebrities. bronzer and mascara isn’t equivalent to proper contouring and fake lashes. im very sure! my mom tells me all sorts of stories when she was in high school. fake lashes were def a trend in the 60's for sure! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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