LateToCult 40,969 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Doot said: How big is that lake? They looked for her yesterday and since dawn today. I can't imagine it would take that long to dredge the lake, assuming she is in it. Officials said the bottom of the lake is filled with debris and fallen trees so it’s difficult locating a body that could have sank underneath that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doot 2 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 hour ago, ARTPOPSTER said: It’s max depth is 130 feet and 1,240 acres. The level fluctuates based on water conditions. I don’t want to make any assumptions or be disrespectful, but I have a diving certification and was taught that a large number of drowning accidents are a result of hitting your head on a swim ladder or boat and blacking out. That would make sense why she helped her son into the boat, but didn’t make it in herself. 20 minutes ago, Delulu Rogers said: This is so sad. I don't get though how the kid was on the boat but not her? Did she fall in or something and drown? I read somewhere they were both in the water and the kid swam back to the boat but she didn't make it, but that seems very suspicious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
panosmonster 1,480 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Glee burried 3 cast members already. This is a cursed series. The whole thing is so sad... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,965 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 What a dark story. I hope she turns up safe and well but it's not realistic. If her son claims the last time he saw her was her vanishing under the water and not coming back up, what more can you say to that? Yes, he's really young but if he's old enough to know what he saw, it seems pretty conclusive at this point. If her life jacket was on the boat, that totally points to her jumping in deliberately. And I know it's weird to think that she took her child out on a boat to commit suicide but suicidal people make really odd choices sometimes. Their brain obviously is not in a fit state. Plenty of parents have killed themselves while alone in the house with their child, perhaps thinking that someone was going to come to the house eventually because they'd be concerned that a child lives there and no one's answering, especially if there's a car in the driveway. Basically, having a child doesn't make you not suicidal, you just find a way to do it so your child will be well cared for afterwards. What's chilling is that, five days ago, she posted a quote on her Instagram about how tomorrow isn't promised and she put a photo of herself and her son online just before they went out on the boat captioned "just the two of us." So, if it was suicide that's...heartbreaking. This girl didn't have the easiest time either. She used to date Mark Salling and likely carries some level of guilt for that and she was investigated for alleged domestic abuse towards her husband. Maybe she's dealt with troubles more than we know. Reading up about all the sad stuff that has followed the cast and crew of this show is beyond belief. How can one show have so many of the most shocking incidents happen to its stars? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
half psychotic 79 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 I still cant believe she is missing and presumed dead. I've always been such a big fan of hers. This still doesnt seem real Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkmanthaC 114,699 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 This is such a tragedy. How horrific for that child as well. I really think the boating company should have made it so you couldn't rent a boat alone. Especially in a lake, you shouldn't be swimming alone. I spend a lot of time at the lake and can't imagine going out swimming alone in the middle of it. You're too easy to miss with other boaters, etc. she/her/hers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LateToCult 40,969 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 2 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said: What a dark story. I hope she turns up safe and well but it's not realistic. If her son claims the last time he saw her was her vanishing under the water and not coming back up, what more can you say to that? Yes, he's really young but if he's old enough to know what he saw, it seems pretty conclusive at this point. If her life jacket was on the boat, that totally points to her jumping in deliberately. And I know it's weird to think that she took her child out on a boat to commit suicide but suicidal people make really odd choices sometimes. Their brain obviously is not in a fit state. Plenty of parents have killed themselves while alone in the house with their child, perhaps thinking that someone was going to come to the house eventually because they'd be concerned that a child lives there and no one's answering, especially if there's a car in the driveway. Basically, having a child doesn't make you not suicidal, you just find a way to do it so your child will be well cared for afterwards. What's chilling is that, five days ago, she posted a quote on her Instagram about how tomorrow isn't promised and she put a photo of herself and her son online just before they went out on the boat captioned "just the two of us." So, if it was suicide that's...heartbreaking. This girl didn't have the easiest time either. She used to date Mark Salling and likely carries some level of guilt for that and she was investigated for alleged domestic abuse towards her husband. Maybe she's dealt with troubles more than we know. Reading up about all the sad stuff that has followed the cast and crew of this show is beyond belief. How can one show have so many of the most shocking incidents happen to its stars? Suicide is still a very big assumption. That lake is apparently very dangerous and locals have been complaining about the inadequate warnings tourists are given for some time. It’s also not uncommon for people to swim in lakes without life jackets. The lake is small in terms of surface area so it’s not a stretch to believe Naya may have felt safe going out there without any other adults. I just think it’s too early and a little disrespectful to say she committed suicide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,965 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Just now, LateToCult said: Suicide is still a very big assumption. That lake is apparently very dangerous and locals have been complaining about the inadequate warnings tourists are given for some time. It’s also not uncommon for people to swim in lakes without life jackets. The lake is small in terms of surface area so it’s not a stretch to believe Naya may have felt safe going out there without any other adults. I just think it’s too early and a little disrespectful to say she committed suicide. Has anyone come out telling us if she can swim or not yet? Because that's a huge clue in what might of happened. As someone who can't swim, I'd never jump off a boat without a life jacket, so if she can't swim, there's a chance she may have fallen in accidentally. But if she can swim, why didn't she swim back to the surface? It's a lake, so it's not like she would've hit her head on anything on the way down. Who jumps into water and doesn't come back up if they can swim? Her son's only 4 which is an age where you don't really lie, especially not about something regarding your parent. I'm sure if she'd fallen in, he would have heard a scream or seen her topple over and according to him, she jumped in, which suggests deliberate action. Did she even tell anyone about this boat trip? The fact they were even out there just the two of them to begin with for seemingly no reason is very strange. That, in correlation to her recent Instagram posts, would suggest something more. It's not about being disrespectful, it's about trying to find the truth. The police will be examining these very theories right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynamite 60,828 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said: Has anyone come out telling us if she can swim or not yet? Because that's a huge clue in what might of happened. As someone who can't swim, I'd never jump off a boat without a life jacket, so if she can't swim, there's a chance she may have fallen in accidentally. But if she can swim, why didn't she swim back to the surface? It's a lake, so it's not like she would've hit her head on anything on the way down. Who jumps into water and doesn't come back up if they can swim? Her son's only 4 which is an age where you don't really lie, especially not about something regarding your parent. I'm sure if she'd fallen in, he would have heard a scream or seen her topple over and according to him, she jumped in, which suggests deliberate action. Did she even tell anyone about this boat trip? The fact they were even out there just the two of them to begin with for seemingly no reason is very strange. That, in correlation to her recent Instagram posts, would suggest something more. It's not about being disrespectful, it's about trying to find the truth. The police will be examining these very theories right now. They said she frequently goes to the lake, I would guess she can swim and wouldn't jump in without a life jacket unless she was confident. And she could have possibly hit her head getting on/off the boat and been knocked out. There are also a lot of trees and other debris in the lake so there could have been stuff on the way down. Like a poem said by a neydy in red Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace 354 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 minute ago, StrawberryBlond said: Has anyone come out telling us if she can swim or not yet? Because that's a huge clue in what might of happened. As someone who can't swim, I'd never jump off a boat without a life jacket, so if she can't swim, there's a chance she may have fallen in accidentally. But if she can swim, why didn't she swim back to the surface? It's a lake, so it's not like she would've hit her head on anything on the way down. Who jumps into water and doesn't come back up if they can swim? Her son's only 4 which is an age where you don't really lie, especially not about something regarding your parent. I'm sure if she'd fallen in, he would have heard a scream or seen her topple over and according to him, she jumped in, which suggests deliberate action. Did she even tell anyone about this boat trip? The fact they were even out there just the two of them to begin with for seemingly no reason is very strange. That, in correlation to her recent Instagram posts, would suggest something more. It's not about being disrespectful, it's about trying to find the truth. The police will be examining these very theories right now. She and her son were swimming int he lake together, she got him back in the boat and then didn't get out of the water. Suicide might be an option, but an accident seems just as likely. I've heard a lot of comments that she was a fairly good swimmer, and her son was in a life vest. To me, that implies she was slightly careless. But that's a mistake any one of us would make, especially if they were in a small lake and a decent swimmer. I think jumping to suicide is a bit far, when to me the case has more hallmarks of an accidental drowning. Especially with that particular lake's tragic history. I'm not saying it wasn't, but to me this sounds more like an accident. Many drownings involving boats like this usually involve the person attempting to surface, hitting their head on the boat hull or ladder and losing consciousness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,965 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, dynamite said: They said she frequently goes to the lake, I would guess she can swim and wouldn't jump in without a life jacket unless she was confident. And she could have possibly hit her head getting on/off the boat and been knocked out. There are also a lot of trees and other debris in the lake so there could have been stuff on the way down. Someone who can swim who deliberately jumps into water but doesn't come back up doesn't look hopeful, then. If her body is ever found, there will be an autopsy and we'll find out if she had any head injuries and suchlike. We can't make any further pronouncements until then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryhanna 3,507 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said: Has anyone come out telling us if she can swim or not yet? Because that's a huge clue in what might of happened. As someone who can't swim, I'd never jump off a boat without a life jacket, so if she can't swim, there's a chance she may have fallen in accidentally. But if she can swim, why didn't she swim back to the surface? It's a lake, so it's not like she would've hit her head on anything on the way down. Who jumps into water and doesn't come back up if they can swim? Her son's only 4 which is an age where you don't really lie, especially not about something regarding your parent. I'm sure if she'd fallen in, he would have heard a scream or seen her topple over and according to him, she jumped in, which suggests deliberate action. Did she even tell anyone about this boat trip? The fact they were even out there just the two of them to begin with for seemingly no reason is very strange. That, in correlation to her recent Instagram posts, would suggest something more. It's not about being disrespectful, it's about trying to find the truth. The police will be examining these very theories right now. I read that the lake can get really cold and create conditions that could bring on hypothermia. I don't know if that's entirely true or not, and I don't really know what effect that could have on the human body, but I think it's entirely reasonable to think it could be some sort of freak accident. Bad things really do just happen sometimes, even when they're unlikely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daylight Jokers 14,958 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Hours before the tragedy. I hope they find her soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glamourpuss 29,062 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 12 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said: Has anyone come out telling us if she can swim or not yet? Because that's a huge clue in what might of happened. As someone who can't swim, I'd never jump off a boat without a life jacket, so if she can't swim, there's a chance she may have fallen in accidentally. But if she can swim, why didn't she swim back to the surface? It's a lake, so it's not like she would've hit her head on anything on the way down. Who jumps into water and doesn't come back up if they can swim? Her son's only 4 which is an age where you don't really lie, especially not about something regarding your parent. I'm sure if she'd fallen in, he would have heard a scream or seen her topple over and according to him, she jumped in, which suggests deliberate action. Did she even tell anyone about this boat trip? The fact they were even out there just the two of them to begin with for seemingly no reason is very strange. That, in correlation to her recent Instagram posts, would suggest something more. It's not about being disrespectful, it's about trying to find the truth. The police will be examining these very theories right now. I read that there are currents and whirlpools in that lake. There's a possibility she got stuck in a current and swept away or pulled under. There is also a lot of debris. She could have got her ankle caught on a branch or something. 🤷♀️ She saw the lake as her sanctuary and often went there. I don't think she would have chosen to end her life there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,965 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, Grace said: She and her son were swimming int he lake together, she got him back in the boat and then didn't get out of the water. Suicide might be an option, but an accident seems just as likely. I've heard a lot of comments that she was a fairly good swimmer, and her son was in a life vest. To me, that implies she was slightly careless. But that's a mistake any one of us would make, especially if they were in a small lake and a decent swimmer. I think jumping to suicide is a bit far, when to me the case has more hallmarks of an accidental drowning. Especially with that particular lake's tragic history. I'm not saying it wasn't, but to me this sounds more like an accident. Many drownings involving boats like this usually involve the person attempting to surface, hitting their head on the boat hull or ladder and losing consciousness. He said she jumped in, though. Not that they were both in the water and she put him back on the boat but stayed in the water. We seem to be over-complicating how she got in the water in the first place other than believing the straightforward story that her son gave, probably because it's so shocking and sad but if that's what happened, it's what happened. 8 minutes ago, ryhanna said: I read that the lake can get really cold and create conditions that could bring on hypothermia. I don't know if that's entirely true or not, and I don't really know what effect that could have on the human body, but I think it's entirely reasonable to think it could be some sort of freak accident. Bad things really do just happen sometimes, even when they're unlikely. Hypothermia doesn't occur as soon as you hit the water, though. He said she jumped in, disappeared and didn't come back up. If you can swim, you'd try to get back to the surface, so it sounds like someone who didn't want to fight for their life. 2 minutes ago, Glamourpuss said: I read that there are currents and whirlpools in that lake. There's a possibility she got stuck in a current and swept away or pulled under. There is also a lot of debris. She could have got her ankle caught on a branch or something. 🤷♀️ She saw the lake as her sanctuary and often went there. I don't think she would have chosen to end her life there. Getting caught up in a current could have happened, although I don't know how deep you'd have to go for that. And some people do end it in a place they feel safe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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