Notorious Bean 8,506 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago Unpopular opinion time: Gaga vs Madonna comparison, but hear me out lol Confessions II has been on repeat and it made me realize something about Gaga, especially with Chromatica. She’s constantly reinventing her sound... but never her song structure. I don’t know if this is because of the way her label wants to her to be or it’s intentional. Gaga and Madonna are both pop queenz obviously! But I wished Gaga would be a lit less pop like Madonna It’s still Verse > Pre >Chorus >Verse >Pre >Chorus >Bridge > Chorus. 90% of the time. Confessions II made me remember how different Madonna + Stuart Price do dance music. It’s not about rushing to the hook. It’s about the groove. Songs evolve, breathe, and feel like proper house tracks, not pop songs with house beats. Gaga can already write the biggest choruses in pop. But I’d love to hear her drop that formula for one album and make a real club record. not just in production, but in structure. Madonna lets the genre dictate the song. I think Gaga would be insane at that and I think that’s fair for me to say. Has anyone else noticed this too? Is Gaga’s structure getting too predictable? Killah has an insane outro and so does SFA. But I wished we had more I just feel like a lot of people didn’t vibe with Chromatica because of this.. The Free Woman demo was built different too. Confessions II - A house record (and trip hop, UKG influences) Chromatica - Pop music with house production (I still absolutely love Chromatica it’s my favourite!) What’s eveyones thought on this? Do you wish Gaga changed the way she builds a song nowadays ? https://open.spotify.com/track/7q1GGm2mBlC9hPWige0C6e?si=6b5319d0e3b44fa6 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notorious Bean 8,506 Posted 4 hours ago Author Share Posted 4 hours ago Also I’m putting out a Chromatica/Confessions Spotify DJ Mix soon if anyone really cares https://open.spotify.com/track/7q1GGm2mBlC9hPWige0C6e?si=6b5319d0e3b44fa6 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANVEEROY 65,160 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago (edited) I love GAGA's song structure which nobody else can do. Thats why I stan her! Edited 4 hours ago by ANVEEROY READ MY...BODY LANGUAGE! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notorious Bean 8,506 Posted 3 hours ago Author Share Posted 3 hours ago 5 minutes ago, ANVEEROY said: I love GAGA's song structure which nobody else can do. Thats why I stan her! No one can do it like Gagaloo! https://open.spotify.com/track/7q1GGm2mBlC9hPWige0C6e?si=6b5319d0e3b44fa6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rahrahbitchson 23,044 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 14 minutes ago, ANVEEROY said: I love GAGA's song structure which nobody else can do. Thats why I stan her! I don't get this 🤔 (no shade or hate, of course), but isn't that just the typical structure of a song? Especially in pop records, almost everyone uses the verse–pre–chorus–verse–pre-chorus–bridge–chorus structure Thanks for cumming. - Madonna 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auralegends 8,857 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago (edited) Most of the time yes but she does have some exceptions: Shallow starts with 2 verses Alice starts with the chorus VIY also starts with a chorus Lovedrug has no bridge (Sadly) Sour Candy has a different structure Edited 3 hours ago by Auralegends Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarvin 1,483 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago You could argue that Abracadabra starts with a postchorus! It has a very fun structure. ‘ABRACADABRA ABRACADAAAABRA’ functions as a post chorus but also as the opening sentence. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarvin 1,483 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 12 minutes ago, Auralegends said: Most of the time yes but she does have some exceptions: Shallow starts with 2 verses Alice starts with the chorus VIY also starts with a chorus Lovedrug has no bridge (Sadly) Sour Candy has a different structure Exactly this! And there is probably many more examples but then I’d have to relisten. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notorious Bean 8,506 Posted 3 hours ago Author Share Posted 3 hours ago 17 minutes ago, Rahrahbitchson said: I don't get this 🤔 (no shade or hate, of course), but isn't that just the typical structure of a song? Especially in pop records, almost everyone uses the verse–pre–chorus–verse–pre-chorus–bridge–chorus structure Yeah I was thinking that, most pop artists do it it’s not just Gaga 11 minutes ago, Auralegends said: Most of the time yes but she does have some exceptions: Shallow starts with 2 verses Alice starts with the chorus VIY also starts with a chorus Lovedrug has no bridge (Sadly) Sour Candy has a different structure I just think it'd be cool to hear Gaga try something outside of it once Less of " I’ve gotta get to the chorus" vibes and add stuff between it like dance breaks or instrumental parts etc https://open.spotify.com/track/7q1GGm2mBlC9hPWige0C6e?si=6b5319d0e3b44fa6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACATL 2,096 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago I will say that I get what you’re saying regarding letting songs “breathe.” Madonna has always been good at sinking into the groove - Justify My Love is a good example. Im not sure this is in Gaga’s wheelhouse. She’s just too bombastic and on-the-nose with her approach to vocal performance to sit back and relax into a song. I think this is part of the reason Sexxx Dreams just didn’t hit on record. I think Madonna would have lost herself in a song like that and the production would have been much more premium. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VelvetVenus 108 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, Rahrahbitchson said: I don't get this 🤔 (no shade or hate, of course), but isn't that just the typical structure of a song? Especially in pop records, almost everyone uses the verse–pre–chorus–verse–pre-chorus–bridge–chorus structure You're right, this is pretty much the base for every pop record Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVeryGagaHolyDick 31,584 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 2 hours ago, Auralegends said: Most of the time yes but she does have some exceptions: Shallow starts with 2 verses Alice starts with the chorus VIY also starts with a chorus Lovedrug has no bridge (Sadly) Sour Candy has a different structure Telephone is probably her most unusual song in structure Verse 1 Dance break Verse 2 Chorus Post chorus A Post chorus B “rap” section Verse 3 (sounds like a bridge) Dance buildup Chorus Post chorus A Post Chorus B Outro Edited 1 hour ago by AVeryGagaHolyDick Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 51,010 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, Jarvin said: You could argue that Abracadabra starts with a postchorus! It has a very fun structure. ‘ABRACADABRA ABRACADAAAABRA’ functions as a post chorus but also as the opening sentence. It does start with the post chorus hook, but it’s not even the only song on MAYHEM that does that tbh. DCT, SOAM, ZB, and LD all also start with the post chorus hooks. We have forgotten our public MANNERS Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagzus 22,207 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, MACATL said: I will say that I get what you’re saying regarding letting songs “breathe.” Madonna has always been good at sinking into the groove - Justify My Love is a good example. Im not sure this is in Gaga’s wheelhouse. She’s just too bombastic and on-the-nose with her approach to vocal performance to sit back and relax into a song. I think this is part of the reason Sexxx Dreams just didn’t hit on record. I think Madonna would have lost herself in a song like that and the production would have been much more premium. I think it’s also down to the fact Madonna lacks the vocal ability that Gaga has, but for a while Gaga felt like she needed to prove she was a great singer so she sort of over sang on records. The original version of Sex Dreams at Swinefest was good BUT it also felt a bit too bare at the same time. Gaga is very much in her own groove on her records now, even allowing more vocal editing and experimentation unlike years ago. I mean the fact she did Requiem with vocal modulation when I know for a fact she would’ve shoved it off back in like 2012 as a restriction of her art shows she’s trying to experiment. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 51,010 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, MACATL said: She’s just too bombastic and on-the-nose with her approach to vocal performance to sit back and relax into a song. And thank god, tbh. We love to hear a girl SANG We have forgotten our public MANNERS 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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