Girrr 1,086 Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Franz Ferdinand said: A MUST for everyone before even attempting to comment on these protests. Thereโs free PDFs of this book readily available with a quick search on google and twitter. Have a good read, everyone.ย Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid AT 78 Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 6 minutes ago, Spyro said: Biden is not a saint and our problems will not be resolved electing biden but holy hell will it be much better than having trump.ย I would rather make no progress than take several more miles back. This is a difficult concept for some to understand here because their lives and rights aren't threatened. The sheer level of privilege makes me pukeย "I was protected by the monks of Azarath, I was raised by my friends. They are my family, this is my home and you are not welcome here." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 160,481 Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Franz Ferdinand said: Not in the US. ย 2 minutes ago, macca said: Itโs not compulsory to vote? In Australia we get fined if we donโt vote ๐ณย Only like 30%-40% of people here care enough to vote, even fewer are informed enough to which leads to people like Trump being president I don't think we'd benefit from mandatory voting here honestly You're stinky Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eighteen 5,430 Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 anybody else just waiting for trump to go after gaga on twitter in the next 2 days Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rasclautmangos 2,746 Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 9 minutes ago, Girrr said: Itโs not naive thinking. We clearly come from two very different schools of thought. To understand my perspective (if you have the time or care), read Angela Davisโs โAre Prisons Obsolete?โ and watch the documentary, 13th, on Netflix. As someone who studies systemic and institutional discrimination, this is my perspective.ย ย that being said, dissolve the police state. And if you disagree, please donโt reply because this isnโt something Iโm up for debating.ย You quoted me first. I'm not debating and I'm not coming from a "school of thought." You sound very privileged. I live in the real world, in a real neighborhood where shyt goes down and the last thing we need to happen is for the police station to be filled with a bunch of racist Billy Bobs. I donโt need to read a book, a police state isn't going to be dissolved. This isn't Chromatica. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantina 3,357 Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 She said enough. Why is it important for celebs to say something, even if it's just BLM? To put it nicely they all have fans who have Karens and Chads for parents. Those are the type of people who protested during quarantine, helped fuel the systemic racism in the country even if they aren't racist. Gaga probably gained those fans during the ASIB era. Them seeing Gaga post this may have no effect whatsoever on their mentality but it could changeย their children's opinions who listen not only to Gaga but other celebrities who may or may not speak up about the issue. We live in an age where most celebrities have more influence on young people than their parents do. They need to use that platform and speak up.ย Until then, this is Elvira saying unpleasant dreams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz Ferdinand 2,359 Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 1 minute ago, PartySick said: ย Only like 30%-40% of people here care enough to vote, even fewer are informed enough to which leads to people like Trump being president I don't think we'd benefit from mandatory voting here honestly Nnnn modern democracy doesn't work (but y'all ain't ready for that conversation) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca 1,318 Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, PartySick said: ย Only like 30%-40% of people here care enough to vote, even fewer are informed enough to which leads to people like Trump being president I don't think we'd benefit from mandatory voting here honestly Wow, that is insane to me living in AUS.ย Everyone needs to have their say.ย ย why do you think you wouldnโt benefit for mandatory voting? I think it makes people do their research and vote accordingly. Australia and our sis NZ have quite good leadership currently. (Look at our COVID cases)ย Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 She made it into a Trump thing when this is a issue thats been going on forever. Its important to mention Trump and criticize him, but this did not happen because Trump is president. Its been doing on for generations even during Obama who had no solutions and sometimes made things worse. Edit: I think I was wrong and overreacted in my comment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kittypeach95 29 Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 So glad she posted this. Weย matter! โ๐พ๐ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girrr 1,086 Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 15 minutes ago, rasclautmangos said: You quoted me first. I'm not debated and I'm not coming from a "school of thought." You sound very privileged. I live in the real world, in a real neighborhood where shyt goes down and the last thing we need to happen is for the police station to be filled with a bunch of racist Billy Bobs. I donโt need to read a book, a police state isn't going to be dissolved. This isn't Chromatica. I quoted you because I wanted to politely challenge your perspective, not to instigate drama.ย ย Youโre right that I am privileged. I have a college education. There is nothing wrong inherently with having privilege, but itโs how you use that privilege to guide/helpย others without looking down on them. I was not attacking you, so forgive me for implying anything of the sort. I live in the real world, and thatโs exactly why I believe the police state needs to be abolished. The real world is broken.ย Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyro 8,438 Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 14 minutes ago, Girrr said: Itโs not naive thinking. We clearly come from two very different schools of thought. To understand my perspective (if you have the time or care), read Angela Davisโs โAre Prisons Obsolete?โ and watch the documentary, 13th, on Netflix. As someone who studies systemic and institutional discrimination, this is my perspective.ย ย that being said, dissolve the police state. And if you disagree, please donโt reply because this isnโt something Iโm up for debating.ย I'm not taking any sides here, but I'm so tired of this "please don't reply I'm not debating".ย You quoted him firstย and ended it with "watch a completely non-biased Netflix documentary followed by a book!".ย Spyro the Dragon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR Gg 12,985 Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Faysalaaa said: She made it into a Trump thing when this is a issue thats been going on forever. Its important to mention Trump and criticize him, but this did not happen because Trump is president. Its been doing on for generations even during Obama who had no solutions and sometimes made things worse. Love your comprehension skillsย Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSlash 14,539 Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 What an incredibly well-spoken and -articulated statement. She really is one of the few voices of reason in these chaotic times. It really is time for a change. Ew, David! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modern Ecstasy2 2,202 Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Faysalaaa said: She made it into a Trump thing when this is a issue thats been going on forever. Its important to mention Trump and criticize him, but this did not happen because Trump is president. Its been doing on for generations even during Obama who had no solutions and sometimes made things worse. She knows that. She said โ... the deaths of exponentially too many black lives over hundreds of years...โ โDelete this thread that person is not Gaga he is a hot blonde twinkโ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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