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Lady Gaga vs Taylor Swift... Who Will Have Bigger Legend Status?


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AlexanderMagno

Well, in my opinion:

 

I actually think Rihanna already has a reasonably high legend status, and her hiatus from solo music helped. She has the "hitmaker" status, but Anti is perceived as a good artistic and personal venture, so she basically haulted her music career with a high note. She has incredible success in the fashion/makeup industry. By stepping away from music, she is actually growing the power of her name alone. And she is truly global, since forever and never stopped. Plus, she is an icon for both white and black public, even if in different ways. I find Rihanna a bigger legend than Taylor Swift and I think it will be very hard now to go back from that.

 

Taylor Swift, on the other hand, has a more "obvious" impact because she is very present. However, in a global scale, she is still just a successful music artist. Outside North America, she has became the new Katy Perry: a hitmaker, but not culturally significant. And while 1989 was an incredible global hit, her global presence is not as strong as, for example, Rihanna's. Nevertheless, she seems to have a big influence in the music industry, and a large following.

 

As for Adele, in the end she is basically a hitmaker as well so from all the girls you mentioned she is probably the one who has the most limited ventures. No movies, no perfumes, no big charity foundations or whatever... The thing is, she is so wildly successful everywhere she broke the scale. Doesn't matter if she disappears for three years, no one forgets about her, ever. People still talk about her and remember her, even if she stops doing music. She is the reference, even if there are better singers. I'm very curious to see how successful her next album will be, and even if it's not as big as 21 or 25 I'm sure it will be huge. I think Adele is creating sort of a "Aretha Franklin" type of status, only missing her black heritage of course. She definitely has the legend status and, unlike everyone else you've mentioned, she's the only one that was able to do it only through music.

 

As for Katy Perry, I agree that her business really went down, unexpectadly. She was such a big, really big hitmaker and now she struggles really hard, even more than Gaga... And we can't even say her sound is not mature enough, because it seems like she is trying to grow. I remember many, many years ago people were discussion "who will be the Cindy Lauper and the Madonna" about Gaga and Katy Perry, and turns out Katy Perry looks a lot more like Cindy Lauper - which is to say, no hits anymore, little presence in big social platforms, but still always remembered by her initial success. For someone who reads pop forums and has lived through the golden ages of these ladies, it's kind of difficult to see Katy Perry as a "lesser" pop artist than all the others. Her impact was very strong during Teenage Dream and even One of the Boys, and I think she will always have that to somehow feed her status.

 

Lady Gaga is the full artist, which is already a big achievement, but most of all she has proven to be able to deliver very successful projects from time to time. Her lows are still somewhat steady and her highs (namely, A Star Is Born) can be very high. She has ventured to so many different projects she has developed an incredibly broad status for her, thus guaranteeing being a legend. She truly is the one that comes close to what ultimate pop legends like Madonna and Cher have - different music genres, business outside music, movies, and the recognition as someone who brings something new to the table (whether through the music videos or experimenting with pop music instead of going for what's commercially appealing right now).

 

So, what am I trying to say here?

First, that all artists you've mentioned are the remains of an older generation. Which means that, by default, all of them are already legends by their own terms. I don't think it's fair to say who's the bigger legend because all of them survived somehow. All have highs and lows, good and bad. Unlike the recent generation (Dua Lipa, Ariana Grande, Billie Eilish, etc), you don't need to wonder too much about their status in the future because they are way past her initial years. They are living their future. Even if they all stop doing music, they established their names. That's the reason why you didn't include names like Kesha, who was as big as they were during their generation, but ten years later is not even worth mentioning as a candidate (please let's not discuss the reasons why this might have happened). Even Katy Perry, with her downfall, has a better chance of being remembered.

 

I actually think Lady Gaga and Taylor Swift are quite close with their legend status. Like, the reasons why they are legends are completely different, but basically reached the same height. Actually, from all the other artists you've mentioned, I think these two are the only ones that are close to each other, and not exactly because they are bigger than the others. For example, I think Rihanna and Adele enjoy a slightly bigger legend status. Yes, Lady Gaga has a broader artistic range, and is more active, which will let you think that by default she's bigger. But both Rihanna and Adele are a matter of discussion even when they are on a hiatus, while Lady Gaga is kind of forgotten between her projects. As for Taylor Swift, I don't really know because again she is basically the new Katy Perry in Europe, the kind of talk she generates here is completely different. And for that, between Taylor Swift and Lady Gaga, Lady Gaga seems to be the one who will have a bigger legend status, and quite easily (diverse career, big voice, global impact). But I think Adele and Rihanna will always be more appreciated than Gaga.

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rasclautmangos

Taylor is the most successful in terms of sales but I can see her struggling as her demographic moves further into adult hood. She has to be careful not to get into a situation like Katy Perry is in now. I think an excellent move for her would be to ease back into Country with a more mature, yet fun sound. 

Gaga is still going to be around even if she doesn't have great commercial success. I could be COMPLETELY wrong on this, but I don't see Gaga being too interested in these pop wars when this current era is done. She wants to do so much more. 

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23 minutes ago, Wolf said:

Taylor is more popular, for sure. But Gaga is an all around entertainer. She has penetrated different genres and even different forms of media: movies, tv series... and there's a lot we haven't seen yet.

Also, when Taylor retires, Gaga will still continue to perform until her old age as long as she possibly can, just like Tony Bennett.

Exactly. Gaga is going to be on a Barbara Streisand type of level when she's older. Young ones may not know her songs but they will know her to be a legend.

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Lady Gaga is an international/ worldwide legend. Plus her name rings a bell for anybody in any age group.

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1 minute ago, Wolf said:

Taylor is more popular, for sure. But Gaga is an all around entertainer. She has penetrated different genres and even different forms of media: movies, tv series... and there's a lot we haven't seen yet.

Also, when Taylor retires, Gaga will still continue to perform until her old age as long as she possibly can, just like Tony Bennett.

This... its not about how many records you sell (though that helps), its the impact that you have on the music scene. Gaga has undoubtedly left her mark on the music scene ever since she came out. She's so diverse in what she can offer musically, artistically, and vocally too.

I placed Gaga first because she (to me) is the definition of an artist. She encapsulates what an artist means. 

Adele next because she is such a great vocalist, and her ballads are some of greatest ever songs. 

Taylor because she has done a musical crossover that hadn't been seen before, and she sells RECORDS.

Katy Perry next because you literally cannot have pop music without her. Teenage Dream and Prism are staple albums in the 2010s. She also is a true artist when it comes to her craft

Rihanna... she has iconic hits but I get the feeling she us over music in general. And, she doesn’t craft her own music nor does she have the vocals to be considered a huge legend. Certainly not in the music world. Outside of music (fashion and beauty), yes absolutely. She's a legendary fashion girl, but music and artistry? I just don't see it

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37 minutes ago, jprince99x said:

I think Taylor is terrific btw, I just think her fans take her too seriously when her music is reduced to please the GP. I think she needs to finally break ties with jack antonoff for her next record because it really is getting tiring for me. The 80s bubblegum pop done over and over

she tried to cover GP during reputation and lover and it kinda back fired. She really needs to do something different now. Surprise us like WTF is this ****. Her fan base is so dedicated they won't let her flop. 

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Both are really hard working women and deserve the success they’ve achieved but I think Gaga will have a bigger impact because has taken so many risks in her career, especially everything that she’s been doing these last 5 years with Cheek To Cheek, Joanne and A Star Is Born. That second half of her career has proven the talent she has to those who didn’t enjoy her debut pop music. 

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1 hour ago, Fanta said:

Imagine putting Gaga down to uplift another artist on her own fan forum, but unlike you I can appreciation it's your opinion and keep it moving.

Taylor is boring and basic, and if that's what works for her then great. I would never put her up against Gaga because she can't compete where she doesn't compare. 

Lana Del Rey avatar talking about boring and basic. Taylor and Gaga are legends in their own right. Go back to listening to your mayonnaise all lives matter lullaby music.

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Gaga has flopped harder but when she smashes it’s always a Worldwide event (superbowl/ASIB/Chromatica) and also a defining moment in culture. TS does not have that

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17 minutes ago, plasticalice said:

Lana Del Rey avatar talking about boring and basic. Taylor and Gaga are legends in their own right. Go back to listening to your mayonnaise all lives matter lullaby music.

Chile, lemme edit this out before I get an warning point.

I’m not white or Caucasian, so keep that nasty mayonnaise and all lives matter dig for yourself, and even if I was those nasty digs are EXTREMELY questionable. If you’d throw out something like that over an opinion you shouldn’t be on this board. 

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JaysAMess

The fact that Adele is already a legend and she's only 3 albums into her career.

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steven

I don’t know, although I feel like Taylor is more popular, I think she will only be remembered for the blond singer who released good bops and that’s it. On the other hand, Gaga may not have been the most popular in the last years but her impact on pop culture is huge and her boldness will be remembered in 100 years from now. I’d go with Gaga.

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Scarlet Bitch

that’s fcking hard because both Taylor and Gaga reinvented themselves multiple times and remained successful throughout late 2000s and the 2010s

in conclusion both are legends and we are here for a world smashing collab :vegas:

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