Buildings are getting burned over Minneapolis murder

[RenegAde 20,560]

1 hour ago, Andreu said:

you are right, but when people are so outraged, they can't think straight.

True  but we need to be smart  about ut , i wish donations  were made to NGOs  or lawyers that advocate for the black lives matter movement to take up this case and make sure the murderer is prosecuted .

[ShayCristoforo 10,607]

It’s wrong but understandable. If you’re gonna tell people that they’re “equal”, but they’re actually not, there’s only so much time before an insurgence 

[HEARTSTOP 3,154]

I am outraged with the video I saw yesterday. It is inhumane and unjustifiable. 

I am also appalled that people think anything can justify taking the life of innocent people. 

So apparently by this logic, if someone murders your family, you can just burn down a city because that's justifiable. I understand the outrage, but this will only cause suffering to people who have nothing to do with it, and possibly even worsen the way black people are seen in America. People who were previously on the fence of being racist might completely turn because they see what devastation is being caused by this.

I know this might sound insensitive, but considering the consistently racist track of the US, and never seeing this kind of uprising and revolution because of one single death (it is horrible but there have been even more horrendous racist incidents even recently that would justify uprisings so much more), makes me think that yes, people are outraged, but probably many of them were just bored being stuck at home all this time and are finding an excuse to go to the streets and commit crimes anonymously.

Black lives matter. Violence is never the solution.

[Giorno Giovanna 3,178]

34 minutes ago, RenegAde said:

Hey keep the conversation respectful  at the end of the day we are all on the same side . We all agree that justice  must be served for george Floyd  

It's difficult to stay respectful if someone twists your words into even the opposite of what you actually said. 

 

But I agree that justice must be served, especially on those officers responsible. Not on others who haven't been even part of the situation 

[Economy 52,915]

8 hours ago, auburn said:

Racism is scarier. This is a mortifying murder and the anger felt from it cannot and should not be controlled. For centuries, white people have put the entire world in danger and terrorized any nation that does not align with their f'ed up mentality. F all of this. 

What? So an injustice now gives ppl an excuse to do whatever the hell they want?

 

[gagaisitalian 3,573]

8 hours ago, RenegAde said:

I understand looting shops but are these people homes and offices that are getting burned down

You understand looting shops? You think store employees who are just trying to make ends meet that now cannot return to work is ok?

[Economy 52,915]

11 hours ago, NFRockwell said:

burning innocent civilian’s businesses and jobs is not justifiable and never will be. I understand the reasoning behind their actions, the threats black men face should not be silenced. but you cannot truly believe that all anger comes from the minds of people thinking straight. Attention should be on the murderers and making sure they receive whatever they deserve. 
 

As much as you may think some uprising on society through looting and burning is a good idea, we all know how this will go down. People will take this as a sign of terrorism and the polarization will only grow stronger.  It amazes me how many times humanity needs to see this happen again and again to get that. 

Thank-you. I can't believe how many comments here are actually praising this it's rediculous

 

I'd like to see if they owned a shop that was their livelyhood and see how much they'd still support this if it was their shop being robbed or stollen when they had nothing to do with the injustice

 

Things like this help no one. It only makes protestors look like terrorists like u said

 

People talk about hard action for change but honestly when ppl do really crazy sh*t in the name of change it only makes them seem crazy extremists and it ends up working against the cause not for it

 

 

[Economy 52,915]

10 hours ago, ShayCristoforo said:

It’s wrong but understandable. If you’re gonna tell people that they’re “equal”, but they’re actually not, there’s only so much time before an insurgence 

But seriously what does looting even have anything to do with this? It legit seems like an excuse to try to justify robbing tbh

 

They are robbing from ppl that had nothing to do with this as well as the burning. 

 

What is the logic in that?

 

If u wanna send a message so badly to law enforcement do something against law enforcement not random shop owners like wth????

 

[Franz Ferdinand 2,359]

I find it interesting that so many people in this thread are so eager to denounce what they characterize as "senseless" violence against these businesses. I hope y'all have the same energy + more to denounce the centuries of violence against black folk. No? Then stfu. 

[Economy 52,915]

34 minutes ago, Franz Ferdinand said:

I find it interesting that so many people in this thread are so eager to denounce what they characterize as "senseless" violence against these businesses. I hope y'all have the same energy + more to denounce the centuries of violence against black folk. No? Then stfu. 

I call out police brutality just the same including racially motivated violence

 

But that doesn't mean I have to approve of this... Like at all

 

Id like to see u own a shop and have ur livelyhood burned or people stealing from u on some protest against a situation u had nothing to do with it. How would u feel?

 

Many of these shop owners could be black themselves or progressives who aren't racist at all. There's no evidence they specifically targeted racists here when choosing shops to attack

 

Telling ppl to STFU doesn't make u look enlightened or intelligent at all

[Franz Ferdinand 2,359]

Just now, Economy said:

I call out police brutality just the same including racially motivated violence

If you really do then my post ain't aimed at you, boo. And I truly hope you do. I hope you have all the right conversations with non-Black folk about race. That you educate yourself about the history of anti-blackness around the world and that you share that with white folk, primarily, because it sure ain't the job of Black people to educate white folk about the oppression they instated. And, yes, that you denounce police brutality, not quietly, but loudly, so loudly absolutely everyone who knows you (and even those who don't) can hear you. 

2 minutes ago, Economy said:

But that doesn't mean I have to approve of this... Like at all

And where did I say you had to approve? Literally nowhere.

3 minutes ago, Economy said:

Telling ppl to STFU doesn't make u look enlightened or intelligent at all

Cute that you think I care about how I look. I don't care about looking "intelligent" or "enlightened". I am out of my mind ANGRY about Black folk getting murdered left and right and I simply pointed out that a lot of y'all seem to have a more passionate response to looting and damage to property than you do to racial violence. 

[Economy 52,915]

1 minute ago, Franz Ferdinand said:

If you really do then my post ain't aimed at you, boo. And I truly hope you do. I hope you have all the right conversations with non-Black folk about race. That you educate yourself about the history of anti-blackness around the world and that you share that with white folk, primarily, because it sure ain't the job of Black people to educate white folk about the oppression they instated. And, yes, that you denounce police brutality, not quietly, but loudly, so loudly absolutely everyone who knows you (and even those who don't) can hear you. 

And where did I say you had to approve? Literally nowhere.

Cute that you think I care about how I look. I don't care about looking "intelligent" or "enlightened". I am out of my mind ANGRY about Black folk getting murdered left and right and I simply pointed out that a lot of y'all seem to have a more passionate response to looting and damage to property than you do to racial violence. 

I just don't think it has to be one or the other. People can be upset at what happened (and has been happening for ages) and still be upset at this as well and call it out

 

Calling this out does not automatically mean we in turn discrediting the source of anger

 

I strongly believe being rightfully angry does not mean that suddenly u can do whatever u want because ur anger fondamentally is well rooted

 

The moment we go down that road suddenly we can justify anything and everything and society would turn to total chaos in no time, even more than it already is

[Franz Ferdinand 2,359]

27 minutes ago, Economy said:

I just don't think it has to be one or the other. People can be upset at what happened (and has been happening for ages) and still be upset at this as well and call it out

 

Calling this out does not automatically mean we in turn discrediting the source of anger

 

I strongly believe being rightfully angry does not mean that suddenly u can do whatever u want because ur anger fondamentally is well rooted

 

The moment we go down that road suddenly we can justify anything and everything and society would turn to total chaos in no time, even more than it already is

I mean, if anything, I would point out the number of protests that incurred in, yes, property damage and civil disobedience, that actually made a difference. Starting with the American Revolution. But also, all the riots in the 60s that led to desegregation, the Stonewall riots, the Battle of Athens, even Occupy Wall Street, etc. The history of protesting and grassroots organizing is vast.

And that's just in the US.

[NFRatwell 23,290]

33 minutes ago, Economy said:

I just don't think it has to be one or the other. People can be upset at what happened (and has been happening for ages) and still be upset at this as well and call it out

 

Calling this out does not automatically mean we in turn discrediting the source of anger

 

I strongly believe being rightfully angry does not mean that suddenly u can do whatever u want because ur anger fondamentally is well rooted

 

The moment we go down that road suddenly we can justify anything and everything and society would turn to total chaos in no time, even more than it already is

This. Also mess at someone not even having the guts to respond to me and calling me privileged again. If not believing in violence against innocent people makes me privileged then so be it. But if all the privileged people in the world believed in peaceful resolution we as a society would not be in the situations we are in. Recklessness and a heated heart are never a good pair, both the privileged and unprivileged know this to be true. Like I’ve said before, there are better ways to handle this than destroying innocent people’s lives. 
And why should we be here and have a conversation about police brutality and racism when we are on the same page about it being bad? We should never have to have a back and fourth about that topic. If we were to get a 10 paged thread on GGD about people’s opinions on Racism, sexism, homophobia, etc. and if it’s alright then that is troubling to say the least. 

11 minutes ago, Franz Ferdinand said:

I mean, if anything, I would point out the number of protests that incurred in, yes, property damage and civil disobedience, that actually made a difference. Starting with the American Revolution. But also, all the riots in the 60s that led to desegregation, the Stonewall riots, the Battle of Athens, even Occupy Wall Street, etc. The history of protesting and grassroots organizing is vast.

And that's just in the US.

a bit off topic, but what do you propose happen when the riots are over? What can the government do to make sure racism (systemic) ends? Ads reminding people not to be racist, More teachings in class rooms regarding racism, Stricter punishment on police officers who murder civilians? This is not meant to be an attack, I’m just curious as to what you propose would be a just response by the governments. 

[ShayCristoforo 10,607]

1 hour ago, Economy said:

But seriously what does looting even have anything to do with this? It legit seems like an excuse to try to justify robbing tbh

 

They are robbing from ppl that had nothing to do with this as well as the burning. 

 

What is the logic in that?

 

If u wanna send a message so badly to law enforcement do something against law enforcement not random shop owners like wth????

 

I think some people are reactionary and want to send a message. And others are just riled up and want to be selfish. Not that it’s right, but it’s understandable.

A lot of people don’t have the patience or wherewithal to think about sending a message. They just want to take things for themselves.