high heeled fem 3 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 22 minutes ago, Midnight Summer said: Lana had a point, but she ruined it by being petty and dropping names she had no business dropping. Also, Lana girl I love you but critics weren't bashing you for being "too feminine" or "too vulnerable." They were criticizing you for songs like Lolita or Cola where you really do romanticize/fetishize some really ****ed up relationship dynamics. Also...this. Writing a love song inspired by this pig is just...yikes.  I had no idea . Wow this is ****ed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 13,382 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Midnight Summer said: Lana had a point, but she ruined it by being petty and dropping names she had no business dropping. Also, Lana girl I love you but critics weren't bashing you for being "too feminine" or "too vulnerable." They were criticizing you for songs like Lolita or Cola where you really do romanticize/fetishize some really ****ed up relationship dynamics. Also...this. Writing a love song inspired by this pig is just...yikes. Why did she have no business dropping them? They're all in the music industry together. And no, actually critics didn't bash for those songs in particular, they attacked her more for who she was then her music from the beginning. Nearly every critic's review back then was about how she was a millionaire's daughter so she'd clearly bought an album deal and how was nothing but a label's creation. They called her music shallow and thinking it was deeper than it actually was, all that kinda stuff. Critics changed their tune when they saw how much the public took her to their hearts and starting respecting her slowly but surely with every release after that because they're sheep that way and don't want to look like fools. And she doesn't sing that line about Harvey anymore. When she sings it live, she changes it to "Ah, he's in the sky with diamonds" instead. She wasn't talking about actually having a dalliance with him, just suggested he'd come onto her but she'd brushed him off and that was a reference to that moment. You act as if she's the first artist to have ever written a controversial line in a song. You have every right to not like it but to suggest that it makes her not a feminist doesn't cut the mustard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
God Control 2,181 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said: Why did she have no business dropping them? They're all in the music industry together. And no, actually critics didn't bash for those songs in particular, they attacked her more for who she was then her music from the beginning. Nearly every critic's review back then was about how she was a millionaire's daughter so she'd clearly bought an album deal and how was nothing but a label's creation. They called her music shallow and thinking it was deeper than it actually was, all that kinda stuff. Critics changed their tune when they saw how much the public took her to their hearts and starting respecting her slowly but surely with every release after that because they're sheep that way and don't want to look like fools. And she doesn't sing that line about Harvey anymore. When she sings it live, she changes it to "Ah, he's in the sky with diamonds" instead. She wasn't talking about actually having a dalliance with him, just suggested he'd come onto her but she'd brushed him off and that was a reference to that moment. You act as if she's the first artist to have ever written a controversial line in a song. You have every right to not like it but to suggest that it makes her not a feminist doesn't cut the mustard. These so called âactivistâ and fake woke degenerates arenât interested in a more moral society, theyâre interested in targets that society makes it ok to bully and tear them down. Theyâre deeply insecure and want to blame things on others, so if somebody speaks out and says something that strikes a nerve, theyâre gonna desperately search for an excuse to tear them down, and Lana put a mirror in front of society with that statement and showed them for how shallow and hypocritical they truly are and thatâs why they wanna make it about race, because accusations of racism are a good currency today. You can see every cheap excuse of an activist HAS TO make things all about race. âYouâre probably criticizing me because Iâm blackâ or âwhy did you say I miss the charts of 2012? Is it because whites were dominating? Racist!â Thay way, they wonât have to bring any good argument. All they do is pretend that itâs about race, accuse you of racism and pretend to be victims and the argument is over. But none of their cheap antics is gonna change the fact that Lana makes fat more special songs than all the trash on charts these days, and all the names they mention that I donât know or care to know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Jens 180 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Â Â Â The Melody That Ă Choose ,Can Rescue Ă Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 93,081 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Midnight Summer said: Lana had a point, but she ruined it by being petty and dropping names she had no business dropping. Also, Lana girl I love you but critics weren't bashing you for being "too feminine" or "too vulnerable." They were criticizing you for songs like Lolita or Cola where you really do romanticize/fetishize some really ****ed up relationship dynamics. Also...this. Writing a love song inspired by this pig is just...yikes.  Lets... not open this can of worm. Our fav also has some pics with him. Cola was written after Harvey actually wanted her sexually and she refused, he also made her change the lyrics from "Harvey's in the sky" to "ah he's in the sky", Cola is a criticism song against him, this is why she's also mentioning his wife.   I'm working late, cause I'm a puta Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 93,081 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Anyway, Lana has always been jealous at other females (remember So Legit?) but she's also underappreciated by the radio, the label, media in general, so no single reason, they all paying dust to her and she's not just an indie girl, she's very popular. I'm working late, cause I'm a puta Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
damag 200 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Sheâs just hyping the new album, and you guys are falling for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perfume 8,713 Posted May 21, 2020 Author Share Posted May 21, 2020 She acknowledged it on her story and also here https://www.instagram.com/p/CAdyqs-nsQZ/?igshid=1k54w0hj6ib0u an angel held me like a child Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
riotx 1,300 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 https://twitter.com/PopCrave/status/1263589181307027456/photo/2 Â Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidLuis198 784 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 27 minutes ago, riotx said: https://twitter.com/PopCrave/status/1263589181307027456/photo/2  I love Lana, I think she has a point, but this is totally true: "The optics of Lana, a white woman, complaining about feminism lacking space for her while critiquing the acclaim allotted to several black pop artists is mortifying. It looks especially foolish when considering the fact that the women Lana namedroppedâespecially the black womenâhave never been immune to critique regarding the sexual content of their music or the personas they have taken on in the pop space. It was nearly impossible to be online from 2013 to 2016 without encountering reductive discourse regarding whether BeyoncĂ©âs sexuality, her wealth, her continued dedication to her cheating husband, etc., exempted her from the feminist title. Lanaâs post reads like someone who has been under a rock for the last decade, or someone so wrapped up in their own critique that theyâre left clueless about the criticism lobbed at their peers." I don't know how to write in english Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorganMak 158 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 The woke-left blue-check twitter backlash against this has been so disgusting, I can't tell whether woke feminists hate Lana more for being pretty, white or feminine, or just all three. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runway 27,876 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Nothing like a white lady slut shaming black females lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorganMak 158 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 59 minutes ago, Runway said: Nothing like a white lady slut shaming black females lol if that's what you gathered from all this your really are not paying attention or thinking at all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameltoe Chariot 12,049 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Runway said: Nothing like a white lady slut shaming black females lol Would love to know how you came to this conclusion after reading what Lana posted. We all need to seriously stop expecting the world the reflect our opinions and viewpoints back at us 24/7; as well, we need to learn how to hear someone else's opinion or viewpoint and not feel the need to police it. In no way am I ignoring or avoiding the differences between a white woman's experience and a woman of colour's experience, but we also need to be really f*cking careful about getting into this territory of silencing white women because they're "too privileged". I don't know why anyone feels its inappropriate for Lana to have opinions on her experiences in the music industry... There's a huge difference between a real life Karen and what Lana has expressed here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronyoji 2,007 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 so glad she posted this. Feminism is many complex things, not just being "#girlbosses" and "fierce" and not needing a man. its become so pigeon holed as just being invulnerable, used as a cheap and condescending tactic to forward careers and make money. of course feminism is still about the former things, but lana is basically saying "its also these things, and we shouldnt be afraid to mention them". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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