Robert Pattinson refuses to work out for 'The Batman'

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9 minutes ago, Queen Bitch said:

Remember these were some of the previous Batmen

You don't need to look like this

To be a good Batman

Look at this picture well both men are equally properly built. Robert Pattinson  is slender  

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2 minutes ago, DiskoBaby said:

Superheros in movies look more accurate to their comic versions. Superhero movies have technology that accuartely depicts the comic versions now. Superheros fight even better now because they have the strength and adrenaline now making the fight scenes more realistic. 

THIS IS WHAT COMIC FANS WANT. 

They want to see their heros in the big screen accurately depicting their comic book fantasies. They don't want social changes and body acceptance. The superhero industry is a billion dollar industry. There are certain looks you have to abide by to please the fans. If Batman isn't up to par to his standards they will be the final judge. This is not an industry to start praising body acceptance.

I study in the media field. My goal when I have a Audiovisual project such as a movie is trying to open an escape from reality, I will not copy reality. I mean sure you want to make people feel with the character but I think you can reach that much more on the emotional level then on the physical appearance of the actor

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3 minutes ago, KanyeWest said:

I'm all for an overweight or obese superhero if it's ever created, it would have to make sense though. That superhero would have to rely solely on their powers to beat villains. Batman has no superpowers so he has to have fighting skills and some actual strength/muscles in his body.

They can reinvent the character tho. Giving him more gadgets. Also let’s say batman kills his enemy with his bare hands. Why couldn’t a slightly slimmer person be able to do that, at least not in a movie. That’s my point, it’s fiction, not reality. You can reinvent a character 

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57 minutes ago, weed said:

superheros back then:

now:

Are you really comparing old  toys with human beings?. 

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35 minutes ago, SwissMonster said:

. But as I said Pictures are an artistic craft and I think art has no limits.

It's about common sense. It's not going to be credible to see Batman with a skinny body able to fight a big guy or girl who looks much more toned and bigger than him. 

You said ud love to see an overweight superhero, okay but if you show that superhero running for an hour without being out of breath or able to climb trees in 10 sec without using any superpowers, hows that gonna make sense? 100% of the critics would laugh at that 

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2 minutes ago, RenegAde said:

Look at this picture well both men are equally properly built. Robert Pattinson  is slender  

But you can still be strong and fit even if you're slender. It's not like he looks totally unfit

Look at any MMA fighter. They're all pretty slender but still fit and strong.

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9 minutes ago, SwissMonster said:

I study in the media field. My goal when I have a Audiovisual project such as a movie is trying to open an escape from reality, I will not copy reality. I mean sure you want to make people feel with the character but I think you can reach that much more on the emotional level then on the physical appearance of the actor

You james bond argument isnt the same thing cuz every james bond is different . They dont tell the same story of the same man. On the other hand Batman is a character  , his name is bruce wayne and can never be changed who is smart ,physically  built and handsome . It is the writers,producers and creators job  to reinvent a character if they wanted to and not the actor just because he doesn't want to work out .

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20 minutes ago, SwissMonster said:

So based on that logic a femal James Bond would be wrong.

No, it's not the same logic. A female James Bond is totally fine because the whole basis is her being a spy.

If they cast Zoe Kravitz for it, it's fine, if they cast Lizzo for it, it could somewhat work but there would have to be changes, it would be an odd choice. A spy is supposed to be agile with their body. That's the logic we talking about, it's not about body shaming it's about common sense. You're not gonna play certain characters that don't match their background/story. 

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14 minutes ago, Queen Bitch said:

But you can still be strong and fit even if you're slender. It's not like he looks totally unfit

Look at any MMA fighter. They're all pretty slender but still fit and strong.

If he looks like this then he is perfect for the role. You can clearly see he was working out here . This picture was taken around 2019 oct

The problem here is that you cant just say you want to stop working out for a role you are being paid millions for and the studio has paid for your training and everything. He is playing a superhero that relys on his physical strength  during fights.  No is asking him to become a body builder, it just sends a bad message to fans that  he isnt commiting to the role .

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9 minutes ago, SwissMonster said:

Why couldn’t a slightly slimmer person be able to do that, at least not in a movie. That’s my point, it’s fiction, not reality. You can reinvent a character 

With all due respect, it would be bad writing

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9 minutes ago, SwissMonster said:

I study in the media field. My goal when I have a Audiovisual project such as a movie is trying to open an escape from reality, I will not copy reality. I mean sure you want to make people feel with the character but I think you can reach that much more on the emotional level then on the physical appearance of the actor

Honestly I could be wrong but the fans and audience will decide what's good and what's not. The box office speaks for itself. And people making these movies have a duty to please the fans and give them what they want. And I'm very up to date as to what comic books fans want on their wishlist and the complaints they have over the studios. Warner Bros does not have a good track record with DC lately. So it's their job to correct those mistakes, not taking risks. 

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1 minute ago, DiskoBaby said:

Superheros back then was also very low budget and they didn't do the kinds of stunts or fighting that's expected from superhero movies now.

Superheros now look more accurate now and they do things in movies that wasn't possible before because of technology. 

Exactly but isn't the concept of a superhero to have a superpower that can make you do anything?
When you actually have the power and the costume to lift up cars or cranes to use them as a weapon, why do need to be physically over the top muscular as well? Because people who are watching the movie can relate to it. It makes us relate to those figures and we can identify with them. But wouldn't it be nice to have a wider range of possibilies of how a superhero can look like? To not always have muscles in mind when to think of superheroes? It's just a narrative really that puts so much pressure on appearance rather than the actual powers and character. Pattinson's approach is what we need if we want to break down toxic masculinity. Just think of all the young boys that are left to believe that physical appearance equals strength.

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1 minute ago, DiskoBaby said:

Honestly I could be wrong but the fans and audience will decide what's good and what's not. The box office speaks for itself. And people making these movies have a duty to please the fans and give them what they want. And I'm very up to date as to what comic books fans want on their wishlist and the complaints they have over the studios. Warner Bros does not have a good track record with DC lately. So it's their job to correct those mistakes, not taking risks. 

I know what comic fans want. But we are judging here before we see any result.

Also I know in what position the studios are but it could also work in my eyes. Especially as I said, it’s not like Patinsons case is an extreme one. He still is and looks like a bery fit person.

Sure if it’s his contract the it is a problem. But I don’t think anyone can judge him for what he stated. Fact is we don’t know his contract...

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1 minute ago, venusinmyhead said:

Exactly but isn't the concept of a superhero to have a superpower that can make you do anything?
When you actually have the power and the costume to lift up cars or cranes to use them as a weapon, why do need to be physically over the top muscular as well? Because people who are watching the movie can relate to it. It makes us relate to those figures and we can identify with them. But wouldn't it be nice to have a wider range of possibilies of how a superhero can look like? To not always have muscles in mind when to think of superheroes? It's just a narrative really that puts so much pressure on appearance rather than the actual powers and character. Pattinson's approach is what we need if we want to break down toxic masculinity. Just think of all the young boys that are left to believe that physical appearance equals strength.

Because honestly, comic book nerds live vicariously through their comic book fantasies. They don't want to look at Superheros that remind them of themselves. They don't want them to be relatable. They want them to be unrealistic but match the fantasy of how they want to be. They want Batman to be buff, and rich, and a playboy, and a good fighter. 

They want to see that fantasy on the big screen because they want to reimagine themselves as Batman. They don't want Everyman. 

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