The Grammy's are racist and they don't matter

[Thomas P 18,479]

7 minutes ago, xoxo Craig said:

Anyone can do RnB or Rap, its not just for black people. Gaga has dipped into the RnB genre in a few songs, Ariana too. Certainly in Beyoncé's early years, most of her songs were RnB. 

Also, like someone said earlier... the labels submit the album to the Grammys in the respective categories. If they know she can win, why not submit the album in those categories? I don't think her losing album of the year is a reason to pull the racist card

They’re not racist, they’re out of touch. 
 

They award white people big awards over black artists all the time. They’re real racism is shown with Asian artists, indigenous artists, etc. where they don’t even receive nominations. 

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Just now, Andreu said:

Rosalia was nominated in a category only for spanish speaking artists

Zedd even when he was born in Germany I think, developed his musical career in the US

The others yeah ofc there are exceptions, but its exactly the same case: there are still some black people that win, even if not nearly as many. Same with people from other countries.

rosalia was nominated for best new artist 

[JRCF29 8,219]

I also want to point out that Lizzo won Best Pop Solo Performance and Lil Nas X won Best Pop Duo/Group Performance just last year. Gary Clark Jr. won Best Rock Performance and Best Rock Song. Esperanza Spalding won a Jazz award. Kirk Franklin won multiple Gospel awards, Gloria Gaynor won one also. Keb Mo won for Americana Album. Oh yeah, Michelle Obama won for Spoken Word, and Dave Chappelle won Comedy. Lil Nas X won for Music Video too. And Beyonce won for Music Film.

So enough with peddling this myth that that black artists are only recognized in one or two categories. Not everything is about race, and black artists don't objectively deserve awards any more than Hispanic, white, Asian, or Native American ones do just because its your preference. If I had it my way, Lizzo would have won New Artist and Album of the Year last year, not Billie Eillish. But I didn't have it my way and I moved on, instead of trying to cook up some narrative about racism to explain her loss away. I thought she deserved it, the voters didn't, oh well.

[NFRatwell 23,290]

They’re damned if they do damned if they don’t. If they make an “urban” category it’s racist and the awards don’t matter anymore, if they don’t they’re ignoring black art. If they hold black significant performances they’re using black audiences for success and if they don’t they’re not allowing black musicians to express their art on stage. Do I think equality is important for the main catagories? Of corse. Everyone should have the opportunity to win an major award. Do I think black representation and success at the Grammies are a huge problem if we take in consideration the last 5 years?  If anything we need to help representation of other ethnic and racial groups who are suffering even more at these award shows.  True equality isn’t an award show with half black winners and half white winners.  We need to see more Asian artists, more Arab artists, and more Latino (of any race) artists on that stage getting awards and performing. Shakira (who’s been in the business for as long as Beyoncé) shouldn’t only have 3 Grammies, all belonging to Latin categories, based off your opinion too. 

[Andreu 37,216]

1 minute ago, Autumn said:

rosalia was nominated for best new artist 

Okay my bad i meant won. The second part of my post, still stands.

[Thomas P 18,479]

1 minute ago, JRCF29 said:

Esperanza Spalding won a Jazz award. Kirk Franklin won multiple Gospel awards,

These are good examples, but these are also black genres. 
Lizzo and Lil Nas X and Chimdish Gambino are better examples as you listed. 

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Grammys do matter. However, I do think they are a bit racist or show favoritism. 

[DiskoBaby 1,929]

3 minutes ago, Adarsh said:

The fact that OP is ignoring my comment and is constantly pushing the word ‘black’. They don’t see any other race. We’re invisible to them lol and they want to talk about inequality. 

Hispanic, Native, and Asian singers although should be getting more attention, just haven't dominated the music industry yet. I brought up black musicians because I found it strange that despite black musicians dominating the music industry, they're still not good enough for the most popular prizes of the year and lose out to more white musicians by who are not as musically innovative by comparison. 

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5 minutes ago, DiskoBaby said:

Just explain to me how Kendrick Lamar lost to Taylor Swift? "because her album was more successful and was a bigger star" so how does Beyonce lose to Beck of that's the case when she had the same success as Taylor?

They're very out of touch and it's evident they're not giving black artists the praise they deserve when their albums that do lose are more critically acclaimed. 

Yeah I mean you explained it yourself. She’s more popular. The Grammys are not a non profit charity lol. And Taylor made a fantastic pop album that I have personally listened to countless times. 

Beck is also a VERY innovative artist. He really isn’t a good comparison for your argument. 

I think Sufjan Stevens is the best musician out there and he had been nominated once and never won so can I make a claim that the Grammys don’t care about artistic integrity? Well yeah. But still doesn’t change anything. 

Just enjoy the music is all I’m trying to say I guess  If you don’t like the Grammys, then don’t watch. I don’t. I think they’re boring. 

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1 minute ago, Adarsh said:

The fact that OP is ignoring my comment and is constantly pushing the word ‘black’. They don’t see any other race. We’re invisible to them lol and they want to talk about inequality. 

what, you can't say that! we have our time in the sun when the discussion turns to terrorism, COVID-19 or migrant caravans.

[Thomas P 18,479]

1 minute ago, NFRockwell said:

They’re damned if they do damned if they don’t. If they make an “urban” category it’s racist and the awards don’t matter anymore, if they don’t they’re ignoring black art. If they hold black significant performances they’re using black audiences for success and if they don’t they’re not allowing black musicians to express their art on stage. Do I think equality is important for the main catagories? Of corse. Everyone should have the opportunity to win an major award. Do I think black representation and success at the Grammies are a huge problem if we take in consideration the last 5 years?  If anything we need to help representation of other ethnic and racial groups who are suffering even more at these award shows.  True equality isn’t an award show with half black winners and half white winners.  We need to see more Asian artists, more Arab artists, and more Latino (of any race) artists on that stage getting awards and performing. Shakira (who’s been in the business for as long as Beyoncé) shouldn’t only have 3 Grammies, all belonging to Latin categories, based off your opinion too. 

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4 minutes ago, DiskoBaby said:

I already explained it's easy for the most popular artists to win in the black categories where judges would easily vote for the most popular artist. They get nominated for album of the year but they still get snubbed in that category. Almost every artist last year was black and they still lost.

Maybe because not everyone listen to them or like their music ? 

At the end of the day Grammy juries vote for what they like and apperciate as art maybe what those black artists do is weak enough for those judges to give them votes so it has to do with their sound not skin colour.

Also you yourself said that black artists mostly make RnB and Hip Hop music a lot of people don't like that and don't see it main category deserving like you do

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Black artists have made the best music in America since the 70s

And decades before with jazz

America owes a lot of recognition to them

[JRCF29 8,219]

Just now, Thomas P said:

These are good examples, but these are also black genres. 
Lizzo and Lil Nas X and Chimdish Gambino are better examples as you listed. 

There were white artists nominated in both those categories. Jazz or Gospel isn't reserved for one race

[Thomas P 18,479]

Just now, JRCF29 said:

There were white artists nominated in both those categories. Jazz or Gospel isn't reserved for one race

I meant originated, sorry