Gaga didn't co-produce Stupid Love: What does this mean for Chromatica?

[derpmonster 22,412]

28 minutes ago, TimisaMonster said:

She also has been sampling A LOT on this album...

Gives me ARTPOP recycled instrumental teas...

Sampling on what? We've only really heard one song and a snippet of another

also, FYI, almost the entire Electric Chapel beginning instrumental is sampled. The melody of Alejandro's instrumental is sampled. It's not new. Samples aren't bad.

[derpmonster 22,412]

4 hours ago, Doot said:

And with TIHTY it was confirmed that Gaga changed I think a word or two, but helped with rearranging some things so she got writing credit.

Importantly, she produced TIHTY all by herself which means she arranged and wrote the drums, strings, etc. which also adds to her writing credit. Diane's version was only a piano and voice. The studio version of TIHTY is impeccable and it's amazing Gaga did that.

[Lukey 588]

We know she at least co-produced Babylon, 'cause we've seen it in the credits of the Haus Labs music

So yeah, she still co-produces her songs

[monketsharona 80,755]

1 hour ago, HybridAT said:

She is the lead writer 

RedOne only helped her with just either the oh-oh-oh-oh-oh chorus hook or the opening rah rah hook, I can't remember which one but that's it. The rest is all written by her

I think it's more complex than this. RedOne recently said in an interview that he brought the vibes of the song on how it's made to be performed in front of a heavy crowd. Remove the 'oh-oh-oh-oh' and it's not Bad Romance anymore. Just see how the crowd sings along that part with her anytime she sings it.

Gaga probably write almost everything. But in terms of composition and concept ideas, the role of the other producers / writers is very important. It's a full collaborative work. Their input is essential.

Not sure her songs would have the same energy or vibes if she made it all alone.

[AVeryGagaHolyDick 25,280]

1 hour ago, HybridAT said:

She is the lead writer 

RedOne only helped her with just either the oh-oh-oh-oh-oh chorus hook or the opening rah rah hook, I can't remember which one but that's it. The rest is all written by her

Idk, the booklet says Written by RedOne, Lady Gaga

[xoxo Craig 55,649]

Does Gaga normally have production credits? I mean, I think from what Gaga described of the song in an interview, she wrote the song and it was in a piano version... so at that point I'd say Gaga helped produce it. But the final version is obviously Tchami and Bloodpop. Not even Max Martin got a production credit. 

[darkchylde 14,857]

9 hours ago, Miel said:

I'm asking this as somebody who has looked up to Gaga as a producer.

how tho? she's barely fully produced songs on her own

[Bazaar 5,752]

So what?? At long as she writes and sings her own music I’m good.

[Blade 5,603]

48 minutes ago, derpmonster said:

Sampling on what? We've only really heard one song and a snippet of another

speak for yourself, some of us have heard more 

[Defmix100 6,371]

10 hours ago, Harry X said:

I can't imagine Gaga on a DAW making music. 😂

Close to production she usually plays the piano or involved somehow on musical elements by choosing stuff. She wrote the song as always. She's not a song producer so I'm not expecting anything. It's not that strange at all.

didn't she produce Venus?

[Killa 17,462]

10 hours ago, NFRockwell said:

I’m sure she did some help. I saw your previous comment about how it doesn’t seem like she would work on DAW but in the Paper magazine interview the writer mentioned how she was flipping switches and changing things in the studio to make sure everything played right. I don’t think she’s clueless about it considering it’s all her equipment in her studio lol

she knows plugins and knows synths everything. She also knows how to use a daw but it's hardly ever her that does a beat.

She also seems to be involved in the mixing, she knows how to record. it's a bit different from being a modern producer

[Gardevoir 9,822]

3 hours ago, TimisaMonster said:

She also has been sampling A LOT on this album...

Gives me ARTPOP recycled instrumental teas...

the fame monster, born this way were also lot of samples. And as of now you only know about three songs from Chromatica that have samples..

[TEMPLE 1,358]

She kinda made the point that she let go of being "arrogant" with this album, in the sense she let the songs go between a lot of different producers. She still has an executive role on the album, along with bloodpop - just because she didn't actually produce it that doesn't mean she didn't decide how the song ended up sounding, she still had creative control over it.

[Miel 15,009]

4 hours ago, darkchylde said:

how tho? she's barely fully produced songs on her own

I think that's the issue- I probably held her to a standard that was false/not adjacent to my expectations.

I think, with other songs or with other albums, it's been noted that Gaga has a heavy hand in producing. In some cases, she has been the sole or primary producer (TIHTY, Venus). I looked up to that from her, especially as a very commercial pop star. To me, it really indicated pure involvement.

I mean, in the end it's whatever, you know.

[Miel 15,009]

4 hours ago, xoxo Craig said:

Does Gaga normally have production credits? I mean, I think from what Gaga described of the song in an interview, she wrote the song and it was in a piano version... so at that point I'd say Gaga helped produce it. But the final version is obviously Tchami and Bloodpop. Not even Max Martin got a production credit. 

She's had production credits on every original song post-The Fame, as far as I know. This is the first song, and possibly album, for her to eschew that.

2 hours ago, Killa said:

she knows plugins and knows synths everything. She also knows how to use a daw but it's hardly ever her that does a beat.

She also seems to be involved in the mixing, she knows how to record. it's a bit different from being a modern producer

Now I'm wondering what is her specific familiarity with production. I keep using TIHTY as an example, but as a song it is completely different than most of her other songs. Maybe that, along with Joanne, ASIB, and maybe even BTW, shows an inclination to more analogue/band-based recording and production? I don't know.