Chlorine 47,976 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, SawyersInsanity said: it's her art, she's an artist she's allowed to have feelings on her work being taken before she can decide how or when to share it. people are allowed to have multiple projects, and feeling people are complex creatures and multifaceted You know when art isn't worth ****? Without proper execution. Gaga is not a fine artist. She's a commercial pop star. She is in the business of selling music. Period. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsy Life 118,907 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Maybe she should start looking at the people around her and see who's responsible for those leaks, and get rid of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegAde 19,310 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Doot said: If Gaga came up to me and said "let's make a song together" and then it became public knowledge I was working on the album, it should come as ZERO surprise that until the album releases, my entire social media is going to be flooded by Gaga fans. I get you but this still doesn't even slightly justify the leaks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzkill 5,152 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 14 minutes ago, Suuus said: I am so sick and tired of people blaming it all on her The joanne album wasnt postponed and it still leaked so it has nothing to do with it girl get real. it leak because the physical copies has been shipped to stores. we don't even have a release date this time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 76,907 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 12 minutes ago, mauvais said: I obviously don't mean to come off as high and mighty either but I haven't listened to any of the leaks because file sharing is kind of weird now that we all legally listen to music for little to no cost lol. Consequently, a little wait is not worth the violation of someone's artistic vision and album roll out. It's the least we can do. And that’s certainly very admirable of you. Like I said, I’m certainly not perfect. I, however, don’t see listening to the leaks as being the same as downloading or sharing the leaks. I think that’s where many people on this site are confusing the two. While listening to the leaks, sure, isn’t right, it’s also not on the same level as illegally obtaining the songs or spreading them around to make it harder to control. I have never have and never will do those two things. 𝔊𝔬𝔬𝔡𝔟𝔶𝔢, ℑ'𝔩𝔩 𝔰𝔢𝔢 𝔶𝔬𝔲 𝔦𝔫 𝔪𝔶 𝔡𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔪𝔰 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epione 10,896 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Maybe they all should focus that ‘aware’ energy into finding her a new manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doot 2 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, RenegAde said: WTH , Anyway blue balls does not give you the right to rape someone for teasing you. No one has the right to leak her stuff just because her produced teased her album(which is their job actually) . Musical blue balls is an invalid excuse here You are pulling small sections out of what I am writing in order to support your own narrative. Again, I am not advocating against leaking Gaga's music. I am against it. What I am saying is that she is well aware of how her fanbase is in regards to clammering for new music, and leaks being spread is what's going to happen when you give your fans "blue balls" for three years straight teasing something but not divulging any other information. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawyersInsanity 401 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, PussPuss said: You know when art isn't worth ****? Without proper execution. Gaga is not a fine artist. She's a commercial pop star. She is in the business of selling music. Period. she is in the business of selling music (.....hence the title "musician") but we all know that she's a diverse creator, even if the material itself being produced is commercial sounding doesnt diminish the fact that its still a product of someones creative efforts ya know? as far as execution she had a plan for the rollout and a creative vision no one was planning last year on delaying their whole plan it just feels kind of harsh on the artist Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doot 2 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, M Monstre said: Again, no one should’ve taken them seriously. After a few times, you get the gist of what they’re doing. If people wanna blame Gaga for not having better security after all these years, consequently, y’all should’ve stopped believing her producers the second or third time around. What people should and shouldn't do doesn't matter, because people are going to do whatever they want to do. This whole situation and album roll out proves that. I love her, but she frequently pretends like we live in a happy go lucky world filled with unicorns and ponies were everyone is kind and respectful and everything works out perfectly. That's not the world we live in, and as a commerical artist, she should know by this point how to navigate it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doot 2 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, RenegAde said: I get you but this still doesn't even slightly justify the leaks I'm not justifying the leaks. I'm simply pointing out that it should be expected that if your an artist of her caliber and your music isn't properly secured, it's going to spread all over the internet. The goal should be to properly secure and minimize leaks, and if they do happen, to get ahead of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaLa 19,662 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Doot said: You are pulling small sections out of what I am writing in order to support your own narrative. Again, I am not advocating against leaking Gaga's music. I am against it. What I am saying is that she is well aware of how her fanbase is in regards to clammering for new music, and leaks being spread is what's going to happen when you give your fans "blue balls" for three years straight teasing something but not divulging any other information. But is she not allowed to be upset and annoyed about people around her that she trusts causing the leaks in the first place? I doubt she's that upset that her fans listen to it, I'm sure it's much more frustrating to know someone at your label, or that you worked with is betraying you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illuminati Freak 2,432 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 I dunno when you are one of the biggest stars in the world and she's been experiencing leaks every album era then it really comes down on the management of her product and the team behind it which all falls on her. If someone like Beyonce can keep her sh*t tight in a vault and have no leaks then really there is NO excuse why Gaga hasn't learned her lesson by now. Please don't tell me she's that naive. Beyonce's stuff used to leak all the time. She had to go thru a major upset when her album 4 leaked almost four months before it was scheduled. After that it was over. Lesson learned and Beyonce never kept her music on an online server after that. And all of her staff were searched coming in and out of the recording sessions as well from there on in. Nobody had access to the music but her inner circle. Not to sound heartless but Gaga being shocked and upset about these leaks now to me is kind of a joke at this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doot 2 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, LaLa said: But is she not allowed to be upset and annoyed about people around her that she trusts causing the leaks in the first place? I doubt she's that upset that her fans listen to it, I'm sure it's much more frustrating to know someone at your label, or that you worked with is betraying you Oh she totally should be annoyed if people around her are responsible. But that's why clarity versus vague statements are needed. What Hana said was so extremely vague...is she pissed at fans? Is she pissed at someone in her team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronk 14,762 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 49 minutes ago, M Monstre said: Some of y'all in insufferable. Look, I'm not gonna sit here and be all "high and mighty" and act like I didn't listen to the leaks. We all listened to the leaks, that said, on principle, leaking her material is wrong. She's literally getting robbed of announcing anything. And for some of y'all to just nonchalantly say, "Well, it's her fault. She should've had more security" is literally like blaming someone who was robbed that they didn't lock their door at night. Like, it doesn't matter that they their door wasn't locked, breaking in and stealing stuff from their house is still wrong! The same thing here. Admittedly, it's very strange that so much stuff is leaking this era, but that doesn't mean that what people are doing by spreading the leak around is not immoral. I'm not all "high and mighty" but I didn't listen to any of the leaks. They are illegal and the leakers should be jailed. I am very serious about this. If leakers experienced jail time or financial penalties so huge that their wages would be garnished for years to come, perhaps they would think twice about doing it again. The metrics need to change to where it is no longer acceptable to leak music. I live outside the space time continuum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suuus 5,632 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, LaLa said: But is she not allowed to be upset and annoyed about people around her that she trusts causing the leaks in the first place? I doubt she's that upset that her fans listen to it, I'm sure it's much more frustrating to know someone at your label, or that you worked with is betraying you Do you have proof that its someone from gaga's label Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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