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Was grace jones right about gaga


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HausOfG
5 minutes ago, Dulo Peep said:

I feel like Gaga just lives in the moment or era by era and she is trying to please a lot of people all the time, fans, interviewers, her couples, friends even just people around her. Chromatica is just another way of trying to please a large group of her fanbase after Joanne and ASIB. Now, in retrospective, her past work seems unauthentic. Like she was doing it for the shock factor. I understand she is not 20 anymore but theres way to continue your art while maturing at the same time. Like Bjork or others did, for example. 

I cringe everytime she is around Mark Ronson or other collaborators because you can tell how much she tries to please them and be very likeable, someone could day that she has no personality, i say she is very sweet and a little insecure.

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"I think it's funny that I'm not allowed to have a sense of humour" - Lady Gaga
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HausOfG
30 minutes ago, Spock said:

No she didn't. She has a critically acclaimed and influential discography and videography. Her Compass Point Session albums and their singles are considered to be one of the best musical outputs of the 80s, and carved their own lane in music by mixing different genres. Everybody from Bjork to Rihanna to Lorde to Billie Eilish have been musically influenced by her

The fact that Gaga did it in doesn't mean that Grace hasn't done it either :rip:  she was being controversial before it was cool, including topics such as sexual predators and strong social commentary in her music. She is the definition of being ahead of her time. She obviously never wanted to be mainstream, if she had she wouldn't have acted that way and would have continued doing disco music. The fact that she has a couple of popular and instantly recognizable songs with having had barley any chart success is a testament to her as an icon.

I couldn't disagree more with what she is saying, but even I know when to take my stan goggles off

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You're not gonna get anywhere with me by trying to portray her music as revolutionary. 

It sure wasn't cool to be controversial when Gaga broke out either. 

This is all a pile of sh*t anyway.  I have to wonder why some people are on here when they think Gaga has no personality or just lives to please others and that her career makes her depressed because its not who she is. The woman is doing everything and more. 

"I think it's funny that I'm not allowed to have a sense of humour" - Lady Gaga
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Spock
6 minutes ago, HausOfG said:

:teehee:

You're not gonna get anywhere with me by trying to portray her music as revolutionary. 

It sure wasn't cool to be controversial when Gaga broke out either. 

This is all a pile of sh*t anyway.  I have to wonder why some people are on here when they think Gaga has no personality or just lives to please others and that her career makes her depressed because its not who she is. The woman is doing everything and more. 

Except it is, you only have to look at the impact and legacy of the Nightclubbing album. Refusing to accept that the  impact of her music and image can still be felt 30 years later doesn't make it not true :rip: 

It wasn't, but it was still seen more as celebrity antics as Madonna, Bjork, Britney, Christina etc before her had used controversy in some form or another to promote their music. People were used to it

idk if that last temper tantrum is aimed at me or not, but like I said, I completely disagree with what Grace is saying. It just makes me scream when gays come for a legend's proven legacy just because she's shading your fave and you have no idea what you're talking about :rip: 

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Suuus
3 hours ago, derpmonster said:

She also does a slight English accent in most of Europe. :) I don't think it's a sign of inauthenticity; rather, an attempt to connect. Some people are naturally better than others at changing styles of speaking and accents. I am too. And I tend to naturally speak like the people around me. Maybe she does too.

When gaga is in paris she does a french accent its so cute

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Reginald

I can see why Grace would question those things, I've also questioned them. The retconning of certain aspects of her career does irk me a lot, because I was so passionately enthusiastic about things that she's become wholly dismissive of. 

But, I mean, that's Gaga's right as the artist. 

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Guest Adarsh
3 hours ago, Spock said:

incredibly ignorant and deluded 

That’s exactly what I think each time I read a post by you :billie: Why are you always so bitter towards Gaga? Not just that, you always attack people who defend her. 

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Ziggy

Eh I think it’s probably more of when she met Grace. It would have been earlier on when Gaga was more timid around celebrities and hid in her costumes to a degree and Grace is a very imposing person. I could very easily see Grace reading her a certain way from an encounter like that.

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Spock
30 minutes ago, Adarsh said:

That’s exactly what I think each time I read a post by you :billie: Why are you always so bitter towards Gaga? Not just that, you always attack people who defend her. 

and who are you?

I never shade Gaga and and was up in the SL threads dragging people who dragged the song and the video left and right. I didn't know that made me "bitter"

Plenty of people have defended Gaga in this thread and I didn't quote them. I will, however, quote people who feel the need to put down other artists to defend Gaga when it's not needed, especially people who have no clue

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Drin Lon
5 hours ago, SlowLoris said:

Ngl, sometimes Gaga has seemed inauthentic. 

When I saw her Joanne tour in Atlanta, she spoke with a forced southern accent and justified it by saying "my Mama's from West Virginia".

At the same time, I think an artist has every right to be an empty vessel if they choose.  Gaga still has depth and a personality, for sure.  And like others say, in her early 20s she was going through some sh*t.  

I honestly think she's fascinating for having the ability to put on different "hats".  Sometimes, she's fake, but I love her work, her message and her intelligence.  And the magic of art is that it doesn't require 100% authenticity.  

(She's also got some strong Scorpio and Gemini placements in her birth chart, so it makes sense lol)

This basically 

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Guest Adarsh
22 minutes ago, Spock said:

and who are you?

Lol okay if that’s the route you want to take. Anyway, I’ve never even talked to you before and as much as I like to see the best in people, I always see you spreading negativity, hence I called you out. Have a nice day. :kara:

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Spock
3 minutes ago, Adarsh said:

Lol okay if that’s the route you want to take. Anyway, I’ve never even talked to you before and as much as I like to see the best in people, I always see you spreading negativity, hence I called you out. Have a nice day. :kara:

That’s exactly the route you took with me though :rip:  but I notice you ignored the rest of my post. And you must not be seeing all my posts then because I don’t always spread negativity. Have a nice day too I guess :ohwell:

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