Covid-19 survivors blood contains little to no antibodies

[xoxo Craig 55,649]

20 minutes ago, SamanthaC said:

If this is the case then a "normal" vaccine wouldn't work would it? Isn't that the idea of the vaccine to create antibodies? 

You're right...

[Yxilon 5,248]

Just now, Supersonic said:

Ok, I'm not expert on this, so please help me out if I misunderstood: I guess you could say that the more aggresive your case of covid-19 is, the less likely you could be to properly produce anti-bodies against it?

First of all sorry for the bad english, (I'M ITALIAN)

Second, I'm not a virologist (but I got maximum marks at microbiology test)

It depends on a variety of factor as the studies are saying, such as genetic predisposition (which is basically unpredictable) and immune system degree of vulnerability (that is why the first ones who were dying were elders and already ill people). But yes, in the case of covids that factor is highly influencing the development of antibodies as the virus can not destroy your lungs alone and generate breathing issues at a deadly level if leucocytes are not aware of the virus spreading. Approximately the same thing happens when some carriers do not develop a fever. A fever is the very first sign your immune system has recognized the virus and is fighting against it. 1/4 cases do not develop a fever thus your body is not going to produce many antibodies (that is a broad simplification but the concept is pretty much it)

[Yxilon 5,248]

The most estranging aspect of all of this situation is that Sars-Cov-2 is likely going to become a symbiont of the human race just like flu, so that the first vaccine will lower the overall fatality rate (let's say maybe from 6% to 1/2%) and then new updated vaccines will be developed somewhen periodically just like flu. There are just too many cases, this will never be fully eradicated as, for instance, smallpox.

 

Don't be too sad, though. Epidemics such as AIDS and Ebola are still out there but they are under control and we learned to live our lives accostumed by the awareness they are out there. Same will be with Covid-19, which is waaaay less dangerous than both AIDS and Ebola.

[Mister G 10,512]

9 minutes ago, Yxilon said:

The most estranging aspect of all of this situation is that Sars-Cov-2 is likely going to become a symbiont of the human race just like flu, so that the first vaccine will lower the overall fatality rate (let's say maybe from 6% to 1/2%) and then new updated vaccines will be developed somewhen periodically just like flu. There are just too many cases, this will never be fully eradicated as, for instance, smallpox.

 

Don't be too sad, though. Epidemics such as AIDS and Ebola are still out there but they are under control and we learned to live our lives accostumed by the awareness they are out there. Same will be with Covid-19, which is waaaay less dangerous than both AIDS and Ebola.

Exactly. It’s more than likely going to become a seasonal occurrence that is engraved into our environment. I think what’s got people on edge is the rate of infection and how random the cases have been in terms of who gets sick, how sick, or if they get sick at all.

[Killa 18,822]

8 minutes ago, Yxilon said:

The most estranging aspect of all of this situation is that Sars-Cov-2 is likely going to become a symbiont of the human race just like flu, so that the first vaccine will lower the overall fatality rate (let's say maybe from 6% to 1/2%) and then new updated vaccines will be developed somewhen periodically just like flu. There are just too many cases, this will never be fully eradicated as, for instance, smallpox.

 

Don't be too sad, though. Epidemics such as AIDS and Ebola are still out there but they are under control and we learned to live our lives accostumed by the awareness they are out there. Same will be with Covid-19, which is waaaay less dangerous than both AIDS and Ebola.

On other hand since theres less production of antibodies is the reason for no mutation of the virus? I think the influenza a for example created a big panic cause it mutated..?! 

 

[Yxilon 5,248]

8 minutes ago, Killa said:

On other hand since theres less production of antibodies is the reason for no mutation of the virus? I think the influenza a for example created a big panic cause it mutated..?! 

 

um no, mutation rates primarily depend on "random" episodes of human genes encapsulation during a cycle of cell infection and other minor genetic replication anomalities and epigenetic factors such as environmental influxes. Nothing to do with antibodies.

Some parts of the human genome are even "fossil viruses" literally, meaning they are viral genes absorbed by primeval mammals during the dinosaur era, for instance, and these viruses no longer exist in nature, but they actually are a part of our DNA, so they are a part of us. Same thing happens with viruses that currently exist in nature, they occasionally encapsulate a part of the human beings they were born from genetically, after a cell lysis.

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On the other hand, the first tests of survivor plasma on sick patients worked great, quickly removing patients from ventilators.