Economy 52,928 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 1 minute ago, FeelTheBern said: Steyer, Amy, and Pete all knew they couldn’t win and that them being in the race was hurting Biden’s chances against Bernie. So they did the logical thing and dropped out to support who they want to be the front runner. Then someone like Warren the only other “progressive” candidate who did worse then 2 of those 3 that dropped out stays in the race all while smearing the progressive front runner in the process. If that’s not an attempt to hurt Bernie then I don’t know what is. The moderates are uniting behind Biden while Warren is ruining the chances of a progressive front runner. Bernie is not just a progressive. He literally wants to tear down the system and wants a revolution and he put it and I don't think Warren is on board with that so shes not gonna support him But not wanting to support him doesn't prove she's in the race just to hurt his chances Warren is in an awkward place cuz she's too Left for moderates like Pete or Biden but still believes in Capitalism which Bernie wants to tear down. None of the other Candidates actually share her ideology per say She may not wanna back him and I can agree with that. But that doesn't mean her goal it to hurt him either If she doesn't see another candidate that aligns with her ideals she may just wanna hold on the race as long as possible in the hopes that some slim chance some event or some scandal or whatever could turn tables If I was in her position I would have dropped out by now tho. But I'm not sure if back Bernie either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolfsmck 2,763 Posted March 3, 2020 Author Share Posted March 3, 2020 Bernie is so far left … even the lefties are concerned... (Meanwhile Trumpanzee's applaud) like a cat in a sil, I observe life, moving and still. My words give a clue,look inside to see whats true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 13 minutes ago, FeelTheBern said: Her recent attacks on Bernie and the fact that she has 0 chance to win this election but she stays in while every other moderate candidates who did better then her in the early states dropped out to back Biden. If she was a real supporter of progressive politics then she would of done the smart move and dropped out after South Carolina, backed Bernie, and integrate herself into the Bernie campaign as a cabinet member or potential vp pick. Instead she went with the route of smearing Bernies names with lies and staying in the race with no victory path. She has the same amount of delegates as Amy Klobuchar and Pete has 3x as many as her and they both dropped out. So what other reason would she stay in other then to hurt Bernies campaign. They dropped out just yesterday. Amy made the decision late in the day. Her tv ads were still running last night. They had little to no chance at fifteen per cent in any states. (Amy had one state) Warren has the chance to get fifteen per cent in several states now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,928 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, FeelTheBern said: I guess your somewhat right I wouldn’t call it assumptions just rational thinking to see the obvious. I’m pretty sure I’m right and when she drops out of the race tomorrow or Thursday depending on how long it takes to get the results and backs Biden then I’ll know I’m right. She also isn’t a candidate who has hope in her campaign if she did she wouldn’t flip flop every time on of her ideas faces a little controversy. Why are Bernie supporters always convinced they are the rational thinkers on everything and see the obvious and everyone else is dumb? The arrogance of much of his base is behind me. It's like Trump supporters only on the left side of the isle Believe it or not, other opinions or analysis exist too For example we disagree here. But the difference is in saying I don't think u can say for sure and I even said u could be rignt. Ur saying yes u can and I'm wrong Half his base is like this jezz. No humility what's so ever u guys think u are right on everything and everyone else is always ignorsnt. Ughhhh My issue with our discussion isn't that u disagree with me. It's the wording and attitude. Even if u happen to be correct there's a non obnoxious way to go about it Good day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,928 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 Just now, Whispering said: They dropped out just yesterday. Amy made the decision late in the day. Her tv ads were still running last night. They had little to no chance at fifteen per cent in any states. (Amy had one state) Warren has the chance to get fifteen per cent in several states now. I was gonna say this too. They literally just dropped out and had considerably lower polling this whole time Warren staying 2 days longer with much better polling suddenly makes her worse than the others that dropped out? Again, I think that's reaching Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilmonzter 2,864 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 Fine Dig your own grave Elect Biden and loose to trumpling Hunter Biden and his dealings are not being discussed now or Joe's signs of early dementia like how he struggles to remember people's names or policies. Sing C'est la vie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilmonzter 2,864 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 Well @Whispering This is what you are putting against trump Just saying I tell ya his brain is melting Sing C'est la vie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlepotter 76,617 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 30 minutes ago, Economy said: There's always ppl with no chance that stay running longer than they should. It's a thing Yes, and they do that for a specific purpose. Not becausd they hope a miracle will happen. In this case the evidence points to Warren staying most likely to thwrat Bernie. It's not a consipracy, and it's not like something horrible... it's politics. chaeri pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maleficent 6 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 i’ll be voting Trump out of spite if they rig it against Bernie. Sorry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,928 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, littlepotter said: Yes, and they do that for a specific purpose. Not becausd they hope a miracle will happen. In this case the evidence points to Warren staying most likely to thwrat Bernie. It's not a consipracy, and it's not like something horrible... it's politics. It's very possible. But i just see other possible explanations too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,928 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 Just now, Maleficent said: i’ll be voting Trump out of spite if they rig it against Bernie. Sorry. That's mature Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelTheBern 371 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 22 minutes ago, Economy said: Bernie is not just a progressive. He literally wants to tear down the system and wants a revolution and he put it and I don't think Warren is on board with that so shes not gonna support him But not wanting to support him doesn't prove she's in the race just to hurt his chances Warren is in an awkward place cuz she's too Left for moderates like Pete or Biden but still believes in Capitalism which Bernie wants to tear down. None of the other Candidates actually share her ideology per say She may not wanna back him and I can agree with that. But that doesn't mean her goal it to hurt him either If she doesn't see another candidate that aligns with her ideals she may just wanna hold on the race as long as possible in the hopes that some slim chance some event or some scandal or whatever could turn tables If I was in her position I would have dropped out by now tho. But I'm not sure if back Bernie either Bernie doesn’t want to tear down capitalism... he wants progressive democratic social programs to support the middle class while getting the elite to pay there fair share. Elizabeth ran a campaign just as progressive as Bernie until her numbers tanked and she flip flopped to moderate policies. Bernie isn’t a radical people like to paint him that way though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelTheBern 371 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, Maleficent said: i’ll be voting Trump out of spite if they rig it against Bernie. Sorry. As much as I would hate the Democratic Party if they rig it against Bernie again. A corrupt democratic candidate is still miles better then Donald Trump the most corrupt president in American history. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,928 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, FeelTheBern said: Bernie doesn’t want to tear down capitalism... he wants progressive democratic social programs to support the middle class while getting the elite to pay there fair share. Elizabeth ran a campaign just as progressive as Bernie until her numbers tanked and she flip flopped to moderate policies. Bernie isn’t a radical people like to paint him that way though. They were never on the same level tho even in the beggining. Bernie's wealth taxes, Corporate taxes from the beggining were always higher. Even when they speak the message is quite different. Warren even said she's a "capitalist to her bones". Her message has always been to help level the field for everyone, end regressive taxes and regulate Corporate sector better to reduce exploitation But Bernie's wording has always been anti Corporate, he almost sounds like he hates them and couldn't care less to see them destroyed and wants a system not driven by profit They both may have wanted higher taxes on the rich and more programs (and even that wasn't to the sake degree) but fundamentally Warren is still a Capitalist that just wants to tweek the system to give people a fairer shot... Bernie seems more anti Capitalist... He doesn't seem to like the concept of profit either I don't think their platforms and mindset was ever that simmilar even if some of their goals were the same Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelTheBern 371 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 20 minutes ago, Lilmonzter said: Fine Dig your own grave Elect Biden and loose to trumpling Hunter Biden and his dealings are not being discussed now or Joe's signs of early dementia like how he struggles to remember people's names or policies. 100% this If Biden is our front runner we hand Trump 4 more years. Trump has so many things to rail Biden on what does he have against Bernie that he’s a... socialist? Bernies the only person who has a strong enough movement to win against trump and that’s thanks to his large scale diverse grass roots movement. I mean at the end of the day I’ll vote blue no matter who it is but only Bernie can beat Trump. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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