mzncb 332 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 All hail Britney Spears: it's not about art, it's about inspiration " Worldwide love of Britney has never been about her talent. She has never claimed to be a great songwriter, and although she is a capable singer and dancer, her success has always been found in the cultivation of her image rather than the artistic quality of her output." Whether she was playing the doe-eyed schoolgirl in âŠBaby One More Time, or the femme fatale in Iâm a Slave 4 U, every outfit and dance move has been calculated to turn the Britney brand into a shiny front behind which an army of producers, image consultants, writers, merchandisers and autotuners could work their magic.. Thereâs a whole lot of talent behind the story of Britneyâs pop domination, but most of it doesnât belong to Spears." https://www.telegraph.co.uk/music/artists/hail-britney-spears-may-talentless-inspiration/ Does the writer know that  the  "cultivation of her image" responsible for Britney's success that Runcie feels is indebted to others had no regard for her mental health, wellbeing or wellfare; ultimately arguably completely undermining all their efforts in totality? I guess she carefully mentions to disregard her "art" because she doesn't want to feel responsible for her Britney's "slipping of the pedestal we'd created for her". Coincidentally, the significance of the music video for the one HIT song she composed and co-wrote is that the media she's a part of (her being hit in the back of the head by a camera) is directly responsible for her death.  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Here we go again End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DC 25,164 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 19 minutes ago, mzncb said: Thereâs a whole lot of talent behind the story of Britneyâs pop domination, but most of it doesnât belong to Spears." I mean... they're not exactly wrong, but still, they could've kept this to themselves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiuga 1,904 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 What has Britney done recently to deserve this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mzncb 332 Posted February 18, 2020 Author Share Posted February 18, 2020 11 hours ago, xoxo Craig said: Here we go again 11 hours ago, ProjectJoanne said: I mean... they're not exactly wrong, but still, they could've kept this to themselves The point is that the "whole lot of talent behind the story of Britneyâs pop domination" that doesn't belong to Spears had no regard for her mental health, wellbeing or welfare and arguably negates all their efforts completely. How do they (you) feel about this point?  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FfFfFfFF 54,014 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 I enjoy a lot of her songs and albums and cab see certain degrees of Britney's talent and artistry in *some* but they aren't quite wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC 25,164 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 2 hours ago, mzncb said: The point is that the "whole lot of talent behind the story of Britneyâs pop domination" that doesn't belong to Spears had no regard for her mental health, wellbeing or welfare and arguably negates all their efforts completely. How do they (you) feel about this point?  I think youâre right, they didnât even need to say that. If they were talking about her mental health why on Earth would they need to bring up how a lot of her talent wasnât used? Like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 3 hours ago, mzncb said: The point is that the "whole lot of talent behind the story of Britneyâs pop domination" that doesn't belong to Spears had no regard for her mental health, wellbeing or welfare and arguably negates all their efforts completely. How do they (you) feel about this point?  Meh. You bring this topic up every time you post here. What I will say is this. What happened to Britney was really sad. She had (and still has) no control over her life or her career. That would inevitably have a negative impact on her mental health. She got absolutely zero help with that, and this conservation thing is not helping at all. She needs to move to a different country away from her parents, away from this thing and find herself again. She was a factory pop star who was a puppet of her record label. She was forced in a very unnatural way for many many years. Interms of her talent... she doesn't have much. I appreciate that before she was famous, she had a great voice. The label ruined that, and she should have rebelled if I'm honest. Her songwriting was decent until like 2003... and now she doesn't write for herself anymore. She has other people, other pop stars like Gaga and Katy Perry who had to write for her. So an artist who can't sing or write isn't a talented one. She has no perspective, and Gaga once said "the moment you don't have a perspective or something to say, you are not an artist". She isn't an artist, nor is she a talented one. Infact, most of her career was created by other people. She was literally the face of a brand, not an actual artist. End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mzncb 332 Posted February 19, 2020 Author Share Posted February 19, 2020 7 hours ago, xoxo Craig said: Meh. You bring this topic up every time you post here. What I will say is this. What happened to Britney was really sad. She had (and still has) no control over her life or her career. That would inevitably have a negative impact on her mental health. She was a factory pop star who was a puppet of her record label. She was forced in a very unnatural way for many many years. Interms of her talent... she doesn't have much. I appreciate that before she was famous, she had a great voice. The label ruined that, and she should have rebelled if I'm honest. Her songwriting was decent until like 2003... and now she doesn't write for herself anymore. She has other people, other pop stars like Gaga and Katy Perry who had to write for her. So an artist who can't sing or write isn't a talented one. She has no perspective, and Gaga once said "the moment you don't have a perspective or something to say, you are not an artist". She isn't an artist, nor is she a talented one. Infact, most of her career was created by other people. She was literally the face of a brand, not an actual artist. You're right of course. However the one HIT song she did compose  and co-write, as well as its music video, does not seem to endorse commercialism and its significance concerning the media unambiguously  stands on its artistic merits.  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hades 27,980 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 I mean her studio albums are more than fine but it's well known she's a performer and not a vocalist or sth. There's no reason to humiliate her considering her life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 134,259 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, Hades said: I mean her studio albums are more than fine but it's well known she's a performer and not a vocalist or sth. There's no reason to humiliate her considering her life. Not to mention she's a sweet person. I'm still going to stan her tbh đ€ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hades 27,980 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 10 minutes ago, PartySick said: Not to mention she's a sweet person. I'm still going to stan her tbh Yeap. She's just an easy target to attack and her name with all the drama surrounding her still sells. Media recycling their 2007 methods. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mzncb 332 Posted February 19, 2020 Author Share Posted February 19, 2020 On 2/18/2020 at 9:04 AM, xoxo Craig said: Meh. You bring this topic up every time you post here. What I will say is this. What happened to Britney was really sad. She had (and still has) no control over her life or her career. That would inevitably have a negative impact on her mental health. She got absolutely zero help with that, and this conservation thing is not helping at all. She needs to move to a different country away from her parents, away from this thing and find herself again. She was a factory pop star who was a puppet of her record label. She was forced in a very unnatural way for many many years. Interms of her talent... she doesn't have much. I appreciate that before she was famous, she had a great voice. The label ruined that, and she should have rebelled if I'm honest. Her songwriting was decent until like 2003... and now she doesn't write for herself anymore. She has other people, other pop stars like Gaga and Katy Perry who had to write for her. So an artist who can't sing or write isn't a talented one. She has no perspective, and Gaga once said "the moment you don't have a perspective or something to say, you are not an artist". She isn't an artist, nor is she a talented one. Infact, most of her career was created by other people. She was literally the face of a brand, not an actual artist. I will say one last response to your point; I will never understand why she never thought to start her own label/leave Jive in 2004/2005. Was there anything REALLY to come back to after 2004? Her knee injuries that ultimately destroyed her performing since she never evolved into another type of performer? Completely The record label and Larry Rudolph's fault since they chose the wrong song for a single to pander to Urban audiences (Should have been Breathe on ME), but like you already pointed out she had little to no artistic control. She and Larry Rudolph DO deserve heavy criticism for something like Britney Jean to happen (When she arguably should have been out of the spotlight a long time ago) After all, they CHOSE to put it out. There were many creative ways to avoid this, whether by only releasing the song Work Bitch to promote the residency, or just releasing an EP. They put no creativity into it. Larry Rudolph should be assailed literally until he's done with the entertainment business. I don't know who he thinks he is. It can't always be about money.Her mental health issues are Larry's, Jive's, her parents fault first (and then Britney's) That all said, In The Zone (which Steve Lunt deserves the credit except for 'Everytime') and Blackout (also nothing to do with Larry Rudolph) are STILL two of the greatest produced albums of the 21st Century. I'm NOT saying she should fire him. If she really HAS to perform then she should do what she has to. I believe she should do what puts her in the best position that makes her happy and healthy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChromeAngel 3,230 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 You know how when we look back at atrocities that happened In the past and wonder how anybody let them happen? And how, in hindsight, we say to ourselves that itâd be different if it happened in the present? Well whatâs happening to Britney is a perfect example of how humans are pros at sweeping things under the rug. Right now Britney is a slave by definition. Hollywood is an industry that is literally able to manipulate, brainwash, and own people all for the sake of maximizing profits. And weâre all watching this happen. I donât know what the solution is. I donât know what could be done to free her or if she even wants to be freed at this point. Sheâs lived this nearly her entire life. Itâs really sad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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