Shaney 5,515 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Socialism platform = win. It really is that simple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 53,580 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Just now, Florin said: Ok. I see you are looking forward for a Republican house and Senate. Nah that’s you pushing boring and mediocre politicians that won’t inspire anyone outside the LOSING centrist voting base. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Just now, Bae said: Socialism platform = win. It really is that simple. No. Show me how many progressives won in red / mixed states and how many moderates? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,935 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bae said: Socialism platform = win. It really is that simple. I agree with this socialism is growing in popularity However I also don't think popularity necessairily equals what's ultimately best for everyone Sorry I'm going off topic a bit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Just now, StarstruckIllusion said: Nah that’s you pushing boring and mediocre politicians that won’t inspire anyone outside the LOSING centrist voting base. I keep asking u people to show me progressives who inspired voters in red / mixed states. Where are they? Cause when AOC won in New York, she beat a democrat, not a Republican incumbent. Show me the results and I will believe u. Until then, make an effort to understand why the Democrats are afraid they will lose the House and not get the Senate. It's not that hard to understand why when u look at the results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 23 minutes ago, Bae said: Medicare for All has a majority support amongst Democrats AND Republicans. Not this knock off bullsh*t, Medicare For All Who Want It. That’s not accurate. In Kaiser’s polling, most voters said that in a Medicare for All system, Americans would retain the option of keeping their current private insurance plans, and the obligation to pay premiums, co-pays, and deductibles. This isn’t the first Kaiser poll to produce such a result (although it offers more detail about voters’ conceptions of Medicare for All than the foundation’s previous polls). And Navigator Research affirms Kaiser’s findings. In Navigator’s survey, 60 percent of voters said that Medicare for All was best described as “a health care plan that lets anyone buy Medicare instead of their current private insurance, if they want to.” People think MFA is Medicare for those people who need it...and they will get to keep their private insurance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Bae said: Socialism platform = win. It really is that simple. It didn’t = win in the midterms. Voters are more complicated than you understand them to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harris Walz 2024 1,451 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Sanders will have to raise taxes through the roof to get what he wants and that's a very hard sell to folks outside the Socialistic far left. People are tapped out as it is with taxation. That's why the Democrats aren't behind Sanders. We don't even have a concrete number for how much M4all will cost. Sanders couldn't beat Hillary in the last primary. He's easily beatable by Trump. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachinko 10,757 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Why are there still so many Republicans? Like what's wrong with you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, pachinko said: Why are there still so many Republicans? Like what's wrong with you? Mostly, abortion and white fright Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
President Biden 5,898 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 I’m really worried about all of them. Sanders from the standpoint of alienating moderates & the establishment not being willing to work with him to win. Pete being young and a bit inexperienced (though obviously he is highly educated and articulate, so likely he’d be able to do well), as well as the possibility for homophobic attacks. I always worry about sexism being used by the GOP against Klobuchar and Warren. It’s the sad reality w/ women candidates but we saw the extremes it can reach in 2016 and I worry about that. Obviously worried that Biden is not gonna be able to win at all. And Bloomberg’s record is concerning. in the end I really just hope they are able to unite and empower the nominee. Bernie Bro’a divisiveness concerns me & I fear for it growing to a Trump level. Bc when it comes to what about Trump I least like & most want to replace, it’s the extremism and cult-like following. I got drunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
President Biden 5,898 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 27 minutes ago, Bae said: Socialism platform = win. It really is that simple. Maybe in the Bronx. Try winning Pittsburgh though on that message. Never gonna happen. I got drunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
President Biden 5,898 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, pachinko said: Why are there still so many Republicans? Like what's wrong with you? The further left the DNC goes, the more economically center right businessmen will join the GOP. I got drunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 50 minutes ago, Florin said: And yet people dont want it that way yet. They want a choice. Give them the choice. Show them that it works and dont create a problem for your campaign The lie is that "m4awwi" gives choice. There currently is no choice. M4A gives people choice of access to virtually any doctor/hospital they want. What we have now is Not a choice. You get fired, your healthcare is gone. Your only options are the ones your employer chooses for you (not a real choice) and which are blocked off by your income usually (so again, not a choice) and your employer can take your insurance away from you at any point, or replace it with cheaper (less comprehensive) insurance. Even Pete Buttigieg knows this He's just dishonest about his plan because he wants to win. He named it M4AWWI because he knew it was popular, but his plan as multiple people have told you is a Lie. It is Not Universal Health Care, and it will not be able to substantially reduce prices. Literal Health Care executives have testified to the fact that the "freedom of choice" talking point is a lie meant to trick people. If you want to support a plan that is a grift on the American people, do so from an informed standpoint at least 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,935 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, Halsey said: I’m really worried about all of them. Sanders from the standpoint of alienating moderates & the establishment not being willing to work with him to win. Pete being young and a bit inexperienced (though obviously he is highly educated and articulate, so likely he’d be able to do well), as well as the possibility for homophobic attacks. I always worry about sexism being used by the GOP against Klobuchar and Warren. It’s the sad reality w/ women candidates but we saw the extremes it can reach in 2016 and I worry about that. Obviously worried that Biden is not gonna be able to win at all. And Bloomberg’s record is concerning. in the end I really just hope they are able to unite and empower the nominee. Bernie Bro’a divisiveness concerns me & I fear for it growing to a Trump level. Bc when it comes to what about Trump I least like & most want to replace, it’s the extremism and cult-like following. It's like th Canadian elections here (and my Provinces election even worse)... All options were problematic in some way I feel ur pain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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