Economy 52,842 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2020-01-08/finland-s-millennial-pm-calls-for-debate-on-4-day-work-week Finlands Prime Minister one of the youngest Prime Minister's ever at age 34 has called on a debate about a 4 day work week standard The argument comes in that due to increased productivity from modern technology and automation we can produce the same economic output now as decades ago in much less hours and suggests that shorter work weeks would help trickle down benefits of higher productivity to everyday citizens instead of just the rich making more profit Other argue it would reduce output without trickling down anything because unless hourly wages went up, this wouldn't help inequality only decrease output for rich while middle class would get fewer hours of pay The Prime Minister has not said she wants this to be the standard necessarily she merely said she welcomes the debate to consider it's pros and cons Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varys 30,916 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 I- The french are quaking Well they can test it and if it works I want it too also @OG Gaga Stan toughts? Banned 04/19/2020 - 04/19/2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Is that good or bad? End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,842 Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Varys said: I- The french are quaking Well they can test it and if it works I want it too I think this works like a parabola. More hours equals more output up to a certain point until ppl get exhausted enough that diminishing hourly output lowers output for an entire week For me myself I have found anything above 40 hours or so I think my total weekly output starts to drop but everyone is different It sounds good. But unless they can reduce inequality to compensate, the lower hours would only impoversh people I think. They would need higher hourly pay to compensate for this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluluSwine 3,921 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 so glad to have her as our prime minister Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,842 Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 hour ago, xoxo Craig said: Is that good or bad? Nice Avi!!!! Anyway I'm inclined to say bad.... It would be good for people's mental health and stress... But most people don't want shorter hours or else they struggle to get by (this is true in almost every nation even the most prosperous countries) So like I said, this would only be good if somehow they could make companies raise hourly wages to compensate for shorter work weeks. If not people will just get paid less If they could somehow encourage higher pay to compensate without significantly affecting business competitiveness with the world, then it would be good for the people So it depends Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 This is fake news. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Economy said: Nice Avi!!!! Anyway I'm inclined to say bad.... It would be good for people's mental health and stress... But most people don't want shorter hours or else they struggle to get by (this is true in almost every nation even the most prosperous countries) So like I said, this would only be good if somehow they could make companies raise hourly wages to compensate for shorter work weeks. If not people will just get laid less If they could somehow encourage higher pay to compensate without significantly affecting business competitiveness with the world, then it would be good for the people So it depends Thank you yeah thats kind of what I was thinking... less hours means less pay. If they can increase the wages but work less that would be ideal End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreu 37,216 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 16 minutes ago, Economy said: The argument comes in that due to increased productivity from modern technology and automation we can produce the same economic output now as decades ago in much less hours and suggests that shorter work weeks would help trickle down benefits of higher productivity to everyday citizens instead of just the rich making more profit well, this makes sense I don't know if having a 2 day workweek is the perfect solution for this but she was totally right there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 @Economy please change the title and OP, it’s wrong. you can read the fact checking on first link and official response in second tweet. You can talk in general is it good or bad thing, but this was spread as fake news and Finnish government had to clarify. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,842 Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 36 minutes ago, lego said: @Economy please change the title and OP, it’s wrong. you can read the fact checking on first link and official response in second tweet. You can talk in general is it good or bad thing, but this was spread as fake news and Finnish government had to clarify. I know it's not the agenda. I literally wrote on OP: "The Prime Minister has not said she wants this to be the standard necessarily she merely said she welcomes the debate to consider it's pros and cons" I'm fully aware the media exagerated the degree of enthusiasm about it and blew a remark out if proportion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Economy said: I know it's not ok the agenda. I literally wrote on OP: "The Prime Minister has not said she wants this to be the standard necessarily she merely said she welcomes the debate to consider it's pros and cons" I'm fully aware the media exagerated the degree of enthusiasm about it but it’s wrong, she said it in August when she was minister of transport. You are helping in spreading the fake news. The title is wrong. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,842 Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 16 minutes ago, lego said: but it’s wrong, she said it in August when she was minister of transport. You are helping in spreading the fake news. The title is wrong. So what did she say exactly? If it's completely wrong I'll change it but I wanna know what aspect is wrong. I'm only aware of it being blown out of proportion to my knowledge not it being flat out incorrect Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Just now, Economy said: So what did she say exactly? Please read the link and tweet I provided. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,842 Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, lego said: Please read the link and tweet I provided. So I read it and I still don't get what's fake about it The media may have blown it out of proportion or twisted some facts but she did indeed floated the idea and welcome it's debate so I don't get what what ur saying What am I missing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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