Marilyn MonHoe 11,011 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Laura Cooper isn't a household name -- even after her testimony Wednesday in front of the House Intelligence Committee. But something the deputy assistant secretary of defense revealed fundamentally questions a long-held pillar of President Donald Trump's argument against the idea of a quid pro quo with Ukraine, which is that the Ukrainians -- up to and including President Volodymyr Zelensky -- had no idea military aid was being withheld when the two men talked on July 25. Therefore, according to Trump's argument, a quid pro quo couldn't exist. But Cooper detailed three interactions on July 25 that make clear the Ukrainians were already aware of the hold-up in aid. At 2:31 p.m., an email from the State Department came to Cooper that read "Ukrainian embassy and House foreign affairs committee are asking about security assistance." Then another email two hours later, again from State, that made clear that "the Hill knows about the FMF (foreign military financing) situation to an extent and so does the Ukrainian embassy." And then, on that same day, Cooper said "a member of my staff got a question from a Ukraine embassy contact asking what was going on with Ukraine security assistance." By the next day -- July 26 -- US Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland was on the phone with Trump telling the President that the Ukrainians were ready to announce the investigations that had been clearly established as a precondition to, at a minimum, securing the White House meeting Zelensky so craved. Those facts from Cooper blow a hole in the carefully crafted timeline presented by Trump and the White House. If the Ukrainians were already aware of the military hold in late July -- and knew their desired meeting with Trump was being held up because of the lack of an announcement of the investigations Trump wanted -- then the idea that there could be no quid pro quo is out the window. It's also worth noting here that by the time Trump had that call with Sondland on September 9, it had been a week since acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire had informed the White House counsel's office that a whistleblower complaint had been filed in regard to Trump's phone call with Zelensky and the broader administration's efforts to pressure Ukraine to announce investigations. The timeline is of critical import to Trump's paper-thin defenses. It's the foundation of the argument that there couldn't possibly be a quid pro quo because Zelensky and the Ukrainians weren't aware of the military aid hold-up. Now, at least according to the emails Cooper produced, that doesn't seem accurate. Source: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/11/21/politics/donald-trump-laura-cooper-ukraine/index.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQueenLG 2,469 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 The Republicans who do not vote to convict our felon in chief will forever have a stain on their reputation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanxDream 2,049 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Trump is innocent no matter how the liberal media tries to vilify him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALGAYDO 35,099 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, Oshawott said: Trump is innocent no matter how the liberal media tries to vilify him. Which clown school did you get your degree in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Again, I'm really over having any faith in Republicans to do anything morally correct or good for the country, to uphold the constitution, or to protect democracy. But its fun to watch them squirm I guess, I take solace in that. 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister G 10,512 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 20 minutes ago, TheQueenLG said: The Republicans who do not vote to convict our felon in chief will forever have a stain on their reputation. Most of them are more in favor of party over people. Gotta protect their careers no matter how incriminating things are... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 That Trump defense is a car moving with three flat tires. Sondland threw everyone under the bus too, including Pence. We might actually get a President Pelosi if Republicans put country over party. "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Sondland: "We're in Kiev." Trump: "Are you in Ukraine?" The president of the United States, everyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQueenLG 2,469 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 hour ago, MrG1087 said: Most of them are more in favor of party over people. Gotta protect their careers no matter how incriminating things are... Their party's reputation will be irrevocably damaged if they do not vote to convict. They will not be the party of conservatives, they will be the party of lawlessness. There is no logical path for a Republican to acquit this criminal. None. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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