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The Enigmatic 3,697 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Just now, dit said: Yes I am aware he is not actually harming anyone but he is normalizing the behavior by even speaking about such fantasies in such a nonchalant way. Words normalize fantasize, fantasizes slowly normalize actions. It is a cycle and interconnected. Very dangerous rhetoric this man is spreading. Well how if a kid likes an old man is ok , but if its revered it's not okay? The behavior between a kid and a man/woman is OKAY, if there is consent on both sides. And kids can give consent I am having my ARTPOP moment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucee 1,690 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 17 minutes ago, The Enigmatic said: He is right , I an 18 year old person , sometimes I see a 15 year old oerson attractive , there is nothing wrong with that , he is harming no one . gawd u're an absolute baby yourself sweetheart. There is nothing that common with a full grown up adult, post thirty that feels things for a twelve year old kid and that uses his grown up aura to get to the body. This is a complex problem. They say when you get touched by a pedophile then you have more tendencies to become one yourself (supposedly what happened to MJ). Yes we have dark thoughts. It's the same with killing. If you think for one second that you wanna kill someone but you def know that you would never do such thing, you're not a murderer. It's up to the adult, the experienced one to know the limits and to respect the youth. If you're like thirty and he guy is eighteen... And he's not a virgin and he really wants you and you respect him and you refuse to make him depedent on you, You're not abusing.... if you're like 60 and you pretend to bet 40 to get to a 15 and then you **** him with no respect and you decide to pay him and try to make him your sugar baby... If you like glabrous torsos but you can go with people your age... That's all right... The limit for me is obvious. Pedophilia is like so disgusting it hurts. And yes there is what is called passive pedophilia, this happens, some people feel it but they don't do it. That is where in the end actions define who you are. Make a choice. hello hello baby. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Enigmatic 3,697 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, brucee said: gawd u're an absolute baby yourself sweetheart. There is nothing that common with a full grown up adult, post thirty that feels things for a twelve year old kid and that uses his grown up aura to get to the body. This is a complex problem. They say when you get touched by a pedophile then you have more tendencies to become one yourself (supposedly what happened to MJ). Yes we have dark thoughts. It's the same with killing. If you think for one second that you wanna kill someone but you def know that you would never do such thing, you're not a murderer. It's up to the adult, the experienced one to know the limits and to respect the youth. If you're like thirty and he guy is eighteen... And he's not a virgin and he really wants you and you respect him and you refuse to make him depedent on you, You're not abusing.... if you're like 60 and you pretend to bet 40 to get to a 15 and then you **** him with no respect and you decide to pay him and try to make him your sugar baby... If you like glabrous torsos but you can go with people your age... That's all right... The limit for me is obvious. Pedophilia is like so disgusting it hurts. And yes there is what is called passive pedophilia, this happens, some people feel it but they don't do it. That is where in the end actions define who you are. Make a choice. History repeating itself once again , The same of what happened with gays is repeating with pedophiles/pedosexuals , they didn't choose to be attracted to kids , because of a past exprience , and as long as there is consent between the two , it's okay! no matter the age gap . I am having my ARTPOP moment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dit 46,738 Posted November 10, 2019 Author Share Posted November 10, 2019 11 minutes ago, The Enigmatic said: Well how if a kid likes an old man is ok , but if its revered it's not okay? The behavior between a kid and a man/woman is OKAY, if there is consent on both sides. And kids can give consent I've heard this debate many a time and I simply cannot accept it. Children are easily swayed and manipulated. Even "consent" is something one must take with a MASSIVE grain of salt when it is coming from a child. My point is children should not be sexually active with adults. There is a inherent power dynamic that is created the minute a child interacts with an adult. Let alone a sexual interaction. Also, I don't think you can equate a child lusting or fantasizing over an adult to an adult fantasizing over a child. It is very different because as mentioned the historical power dynamic isn't there. Children depend on their parents, on adults, view adults as authoritarian figures, as comforting figures etc...it is almost never the other way around. Additionally I'm not arguing about fantasizing per say...I'm arguing about him casually mentioning it in a interview he knows will be circulated. He is normalizing the fantasy whether he knows it or not. That is actually dangerous. Him fantasizing is his own issue and essentially harmless (yet twisted imo)...but declaring this fantasy? That is where the issue is rooted for me tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucee 1,690 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Just now, The Enigmatic said: History repeating itself once again , The same of what happened with gays is repeating with pedophiles/pedosexuals , they didn't choose to be attracted to kids , because of a past exprience , and as long as there is consent between the two , it's okay! no matter the age gap . The consent is not the same when you're 15 and when you're 50 hello hello baby. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Enigmatic 3,697 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, brucee said: The consent is not the same when you're 15 and when you're 50 It is still called consent I am having my ARTPOP moment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucee 1,690 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 1 minute ago, The Enigmatic said: It is still called consent hello hello baby. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meruk Holland 2,393 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 I understand the disgust and revulsion everyone feels about the idea of an adult man lusting after a young adolescent or child. Rarely is there not a dynamic of power and authority due to age alone, let alone possible prior relations; that's just how our society works. However, understand that attraction to an age demographic outside of your own (and yes, this works both ways) is considered a mental/sexual abnormality. It's not a choice, it's not their fault. Their neuroanatomy and brain chemistry is different from the norm. They can't help being attracted to who they are attracted to. What they can do is not act on it. It can never be okay for them to act on it because there will always be ethical and moral dilemmas in regards to the aforementioned dynamic of power and authority. It's important to keep compassion and kindness towards those that are afflicted with such an attraction. The act of having intercourse with an underage person is reprehensible, but the attraction should be pitied. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eighteen 5,430 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 reading what this author said, he clearly said he doesn't act on it. you can't punish someone for thought, you punish them for action. i mean i guess everyone here is holier than thou, never having a questionable thought coming across their minds, like SURE, OK. time to cue that cliche of the ferociously anti-gay person who eventually comes out themselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Adarsh Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 He clearly has a mental problem and can’t choose who he’s attracted to. It would be bad if he acted upon those thoughts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 53,580 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 ...duh. Did we watch the same movie or?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 53,580 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 38 minutes ago, The Enigmatic said: It is still called consent Imagine thinking children can legally give consent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daylight Jokers 14,958 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 59 minutes ago, The Enigmatic said: History repeating itself once again , The same of what happened with gays is repeating with pedophiles/pedosexuals , they didn't choose to be attracted to kids , because of a past exprience , and as long as there is consent between the two , it's okay! no matter the age gap . Don't ever compare the struggles of the LGBT community to that of Paedophiles. First of all, paedophilia is a mental illness, not a sexuality. Second, kids under 15 years old and below aren't mature enough to think for themselves. They shouldn't be given the right to give consent to having a romantic relationship with an older man/woman. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhettoFabulous 18,501 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 50 minutes ago, The Enigmatic said: It is still called consent Are you ok? Like are you ok? I’ve seen it all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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