Bernie Sanders is in trouble

[Othon 34,299]

3 minutes ago, JusKeepBreathin said:

Stuff like smearing a fellow candidate like this will never get me to vote for Bernie. Here we go again. 

Everyone on the planet knows about the Native American thing and she is still more likable than the cranky old man. 

No one is trying to get you to vote for Bernie. Comments like this make it clear that you're a lost cause. 

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As commander in chief, foreign policy is literally the only area where a president has immediate and executive influence over. Elizabeth Warren not only has weak foreign policy positions, she helps prop up the military industrial complex. Meanwhile she continues to suggest bandaid solutions to climate change. She’s a great technocrat when it comes to financial stability of the middle class, but in 2020, we need more than that. Not just the United States, but the entire world. 

[JusKeepBreathin 19,311]

Just now, OG Gaga Stan said:

No one is trying to get you to vote for Bernie. Comments like this make it clear that you're a lost cause. 

A lost cause because I prefer Warren?

[PartySick 173,496]

9 minutes ago, Economy said:

American politics and elections are so complicated 

They're really not. Everyone's an asshole  some are just more tolerable

And yeah, "elites". Bernie doesn't cozy up to Dem officials or rich folk which is where Liz gets a lot of support from. It's a plus for Bernie's image but it gets Liz more votes so...who really wins?

@OG Gaga Stan you're not going to get a satisfactory answer from me  I just like Warren better. That's it. My vote, my prerogative. Bernie's a better progressive, that's pretty clear but I just do not have faith in his capability as president.

Warren is a different story.

I'd rather have diet coke that I can drink than real coke that's been spilled on the floor.

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5 minutes ago, JusKeepBreathin said:

Stuff like smearing a fellow candidate like this will never get me to vote for Bernie. Here we go again. 

Everyone on the planet knows about the Native American thing and she is still more likable than the cranky old man. 

“Cranky old man” 

Who's doing the smearing here? Nothing that @AndyDWUW said was false. Whereas you’re over here resorting to pathetic personal attacks. 

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4 minutes ago, OG Gaga Stan said:

A candidate that:

 

1. Voted to give Donald Trump nearly $1 trillion for his military budget (more money that he even asked for) that he's utilized to bomb the Middle East;

2. Has an abysmal record of supporting and justifying the Israeli occupation of Palestine and their bombing of school children in Gaza; 

3. Has repeatedly equivocated on Medicare for All and recently released a plan that isn't Medicare for All at all (which is a life or death issue for countless people who can't afford their healthcare costs);

4. Doesn't have a plan to deal with medical debt;

5. Doesn't have a plan to deal with HIV/AIDS,

6. and was a Republican through the Vietnam war, the Civil Rights movement, and the AIDS epidemic

 

isn't "progressive enough." Not by a long shot. Especially when we have a more progressive candidate in the race. 

The fact these people are equating Warren to Sanders is ridiculous. Her foreign record alone is a deal breaker. 

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This is yet another press obituary for Bernie for no reason. 

A recent poll has Bernie tied for first in Nevada and a strong second (Warren in a distant 3rd) in NC (state with many delegates).

furthermore, as I continue to tell you guys to no avail, Bernie has always over performed polling in caucus states. This means in all likelihood his polling in Iowa and Nevada is understated. All he needs to do is win either IA or NH, snag NV and do decently in SC. He is in position to do that. He’s consistently beating everyone with Latinos (Florida, California and Texas have some of the most delegates per state and have some of the largest Latino populations). He’s improved with AA and generally beats Warren or is competitive with them. Bernie is capturing nearly 30% of the under 30 vote consistently & provided his strategy of a larger unprecedented young vote turnout actually works then his polling has him in a great position to win. 

The following is outdated but shows his grassroots support is unmatched even to the so-called front runner Warren. 

Warren is still struggling to build a working class coalition that is diverse and has only consolidated the affluent white liberals. That’s not enough to win. I know the polling shows her rising but we’ve seen this before. The media props a candidate up for a month and they rise (Kamala did this, Beto did this & so did mayor Pete). They all have came back to earth. Warren does have a claim to popularity so when she comes back to earth it’s not going to be as drastic but I’m telling you it’s not going to last. Her supporters are less committed to her than both Biden and Bernie and it’s not going to take too much for that support to go elsewhere. 

https://www.latimes.com/projects/2020-democrat-campaign-donors-maps/

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Y’all need to LEARN this is a primary. 

We WILL be critical of ALL candidates whether you like it or not. 

No politician is perfect and there is always room for improvement in ALL politicians. 

The DNC would love to have us all lined up to vote for Biden without a second thought. The only way to combat that mentality is to actually point out the differences between the candidates. 

[Othon 34,299]

1 minute ago, PartySick said:

@OG Gaga Stan you're not going to get a satisfactory answer from me  I just like Warren better. That's it. My vote, my prerogative. Bernie's a better progressive, that's pretty clear but I just do not have faith in his capability as president.

Warren is a different story.

I'd rather have diet coke that I can drink than real coke that's been spilled on the floor.

So, in other words, you have absolutely no legitimate reason at all. Got it. 

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1 minute ago, Postboy said:

“Cranky old man” 

Who's doing the smearing here? Nothing that @AndyDWUW said was false. Whereas you’re over here resorting to pathetic personal attacks. 

Now imagine if we were to do the same with Elizabeth Warren. Imagine us saying something like “Cranky old woman.”

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I guess Bernie really is in trouble when the knives are our for his closest primary opponent. Literally none of this makes me want to vote for him in the primary.

[JusKeepBreathin 19,311]

3 minutes ago, Postboy said:

“Cranky old man” 

Who's doing the smearing here? Nothing that @AndyDWUW said was false. Whereas you’re over here resorting to pathetic personal attacks. 

It's a quote from the article from a former Bernie aid. 

Oh wait I did qoute it wrong. He actually said, "He’s kind of a cranky, cantankerous old man"

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Just now, FATCAT said:

I guess Bernie really is in trouble when the knives are our for his closest primary opponent. Literally none of this makes me want to vote for him in the primary.

You’re not voting for his supporters. The way you perceive how others criticize candidates shouldn’t be a factor into who you vote for in the first place. 

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4 minutes ago, FATCAT said:

I guess Bernie really is in trouble when the knives are our for his closest primary opponent. Literally none of this makes me want to vote for him in the primary.

So you wouldn’t want to vote for him because we are arguing with you? That is how much you care about policies? We are not the one running for office. You are a perfect example of what most of her base is.

[Othon 34,299]

2 minutes ago, FATCAT said:

I guess Bernie really is in trouble when the knives are our for his closest primary opponent. Literally none of this makes me want to vote for him in the primary.

Again, no one is trying to get you to vote for him. You  made it clear in the several threads you spent defending Joe Biden () that you're also a lost cause.