ltlmnstr 2,771 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Thank you @HorusRa2 for providing sources. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othon 34,299 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 The man who presided over a town that became a mecca for trans people before I was even born (https://www.thedailybeast.com/mayor-bernie-sanders-created-an-80s-trans-mecca-in-burlington), was publishing op-eds in publications arguing on behalf of queer people 40 years ago, and who has, by far, the best record of anyone running regarding their support for queer people has absolutely nothing to prove to our community. Harping on the symbolism of attending one event to baselessly smear a lifelong supporter for the improvement of the material conditions our community endures is just transparent bs. Not everyone can attend everything in a campaign like this. There will be conflicts. He spent the day touring a HBCU and other historically Black owned businesses. He's good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunkTheFunk 125,703 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 He's been supporting LGBTQ rights longer than some of you have been alive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromaticunt 5,529 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 12 hours ago, Economy said: This doesn’t necessairily say anything about his level of support campaign time schedules are insane and some stuff will innevitably be missed "Some stuff" liiiike equal rights for all? Nice to know where his priorities lie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromaticunt 5,529 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, PunkTheFunk said: He's been supporting LGBTQ rights longer than some of you have been alive Then why doesn't he buy their album! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 53,564 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Well... I can’t even blink. He’s clearly pro LGBT. It’s THE OTHERS who need to boast up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Bernie is the ONLY candidate up there (well, I guess Warren as well for this issue) where I have absolutely 100% faith in his position on this topic because of his well documenter unequivocal and moral support for the LGBTQ+ community. This doesnt bother me. I do think there should be at least 1 more popularized LGBTQ+ focused discussion from the dems though, mostly about how to go forward against Trump's pro "religious freedom" legalized discrimination bs I suppose and how far they are willing to go to make discrimination against gay people in the workforce, adopting, etc. as illegal and punished as it possibly can be. It's an affront on the freedom America purports itself on to be able to blatantly and LEGALLY discriminate against a class of citizens in 2019. 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 14 hours ago, Economy said: This doesn’t necessairily say anything about his level of support campaign time schedules are insane and some stuff will innevitably be missed Kinda nonsense when every major presidential campaign in the country decided to attend There are big moments that everyone knows should takes priority Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 32 minutes ago, ItsTommyBitch said: Bernie is the ONLY candidate up there (well, I guess Warren as well for this issue) where I have absolutely 100% faith in his position on this topic because of his well documenter unequivocal and moral support for the LGBTQ+ community. This doesnt bother me. I do think there should be at least 1 more popularized LGBTQ+ focused discussion from the dems though, mostly about how to go forward against Trump's pro "religious freedom" legalized discrimination bs I suppose and how far they are willing to go to make discrimination against gay people in the workforce, adopting, etc. as illegal and punished as it possibly can be. It's an affront on the freedom America purports itself on to be able to blatantly and LEGALLY discriminate against a class of citizens in 2019. There was. It was in Iowa today. And he missed it, too. It's in the OP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dit 46,738 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 No pandering Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,845 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 8 hours ago, MJHolland said: Kinda nonsense when every major presidential campaign in the country decided to attend There are big moments that everyone knows should takes priority Ok. But do u know why he didnt attend? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,655 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Bernie haters doing the most. Embarrassing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imnotyourbabe10 6,120 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Thank you for those going to bat for Bernie in this thread. He has been consistent and is a good man. Anecdotally, I've seen him talk live a few times and he certainly brings up LGBTQ in his speeches. I am kind of glad he sat this pandering, corporatized event out, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 9 hours ago, MJHolland said: There was. It was in Iowa today. And he missed it, too. It's in the OP. I said 1 more. Large, publicized, televised, talked about, etc. The average person isn't watching even the debates, most people havent made up their mind yet, etc. so reaching as many as possible to me is most important rn. And like I said, him being at it is unfortunate, but doesn't really make me flinch. I realistically don't need 45 second soundbits of capsized plans on an issue where, to the best of my knowledge, most of the candidates agree much more on this topic than almost any other issue. While its been upsetting to see there havent been any LGBTQ+ questions asked at the debates so far, I *do* know the positions of all of these candidates pretty well where they've ever been asked, especially Bernie. That being said, I would like him to come to the HRC one in October, if for no other reason than to avoid the bad press... its clearly not an issue he doesn't care about or anything. It's more concerning that frontrunner Joe Biden had intentions of skipping the DNC ran Climate Change Debate (that they ended up scrapping and we got a town hall instead - which he did attend) to me, because he doesn't really* support the Green New Deal so there I would have liked to have known his plan. (Hint, its garbage) *him Not being at it... it won't let me edit that paragraph* 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 27 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: Bernie haters doing the most. Embarrassing. Bernie personally attached Hillary for not going to the climate change forum in Nevada in 2016. This is something you would have criticized Bernie over back in 2016 too lol. I don’t think it’s “hating” to say he should be there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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