Taylor Swift and Ed Sheeran

[Andreu 37,216]

3 minutes ago, Spock said:

Because we’re gay

and they don't give you the gay card if you like Ed Sheeran

[xoxo Craig 55,649]

Lets take a song like Shape of You -

Very simple production, 4 chords which are repeated throughout the whole song and the subject is about how he likes his female bodies.

This song managed to chart for over a year and was number one for many many weeks 

 

Perfect -

Again, its about how he likes his women. Very simple ballad, and simple chord progression

Galway Girl -

Again, its about how he likes an Irish girl. Tried to spice it up with having some traditional Irish instruments... but was still very generic and bland. This song was over played to the max like many of his songs.

South of The Border -

Sounds exactly like Shape of You, we have heard it before. Subject matter is pretty shallow and, yup, about how he likes his women. 

 

Like can he come up with something else? Can he do something thats not a slow love ballad, or a generic pop song about how he likes his women? 

[Andreu 37,216]

1 minute ago, xoxo Craig said:

Very simple production, 4 chords which are repeated throughout the whole song and the subject is about how he likes his female bodies.

True, I would appreciate if they used better harmonies but the truth is most pop songs nowadays use a chord sequence of 4 chords thats repeated throughout the song, including a lot of Gaga ones and Taylor's, Blank Space for exmample. You Need To Calm Down uses two.

I still think most of the criticism you mentioned could be applied to both, but you're right

[AmericanxDream 2,049]

Why are the Swifties and Little Edsters still trying to overrun GGD? 

[weed 74,466]

16 minutes ago, Andreu said:

Ed has the most streamed song and album ever on Spotify so they both have something 

I meant in the more cultural sense, Taylor has been talked about pretty consistently for 10 years, Ed is more of just a successful musician. 

[joesuda 798]

32 minutes ago, Andreu said:

So here is the question I am asking: Do you really think they are that different?? Please don't attack me and keep the discussion civil

To me the biggest difference is intimacy. Some Taylor's song are very bland and  general, but there always seems to be a personal element. Ala "Listen to some indie record that's much better than mine" from WANEGBT, "With every guitar scar on the back of my hand" from Lover, but Ed's songs nowadays seem so generic, there is nothing intimate or specifically Ed in his recent albums.

But I kinda understand the comparison , they are both making chart-topping pop music. But I would disagree with the personality point as everything that Taylor  makes, does is under extreme scrutiny, there were countless narratives where Taylor was a blank canvas which could suit whichever narrative you needed, whilst Ed is never under pressure to be political, to fight for rights, but this could be the difference between the UK and the USA as in the States everything seems to be partisan, you have to be A or B, whilst in Europe it seems to be more open, declaring your political options isn't a must for artists.

[Andreu 37,216]

7 minutes ago, Joesuda said:

To me the biggest difference is intimacy. Some Taylor's song are very bland and  general, but there always seems to be a personal element. Ala "Listen to some indie record that's much better than mine" from WANEGBT, "With every guitar scar on the back of my hand" from Lover, but Ed's songs nowadays seem so generic, there is nothing intimate or specifically Ed in his recent albums.

But I kinda understand the comparison , they are both making chart-topping pop music. But I would disagree with the personality point as everything that Taylor  makes, does is under extreme scrutiny, there were countless narratives where Taylor was a blank canvas which could suit whichever narrative you needed, whilst Ed is never under pressure to be political, to fight for rights, but this could be the difference between the UK and the USA as in the States everything seems to be partisan, you have to be A or B, whilst in Europe it seems to be more open, declaring your political options isn't a must for artists.

Really good analysis

[Spock 20,290]

39 minutes ago, Andreu said:

and they don't give you the gay card if you like Ed Sheeran

I know it’s not the same for everyone, but for me it’s like rap. 

I can listen to Megan The Stallion rap about *** and **** all day, but if I have to listen to a male rapper then ew no thanks. Doesn’t mean I don’t like rap songs from male rappers, but don’t tend to listen to them on my own. 

Ed is the same for me. He was cute when he was touring with Taylor but then he blew up and became an unbearable twat that makes music for Beckys and bros. You could argue Taylor’s music might be basic for some, but imo it’s not the same 

[Taylucifer 5,166]

1 hour ago, Talenti said:

I always thought the same I feel like they’d make a great couple!

[Taylucifer 5,166]

1 hour ago, Andreu said:

But truly I feel like Taylor's songs from Lover are not any better, even though there are exceptions. To me both the collabs projects and Lover were disappointing and uninteresting albums.

I thought most of the album was an exception

But, the singles were bad choices

[Davian 44,859]

1 hour ago, Ryusei said:

 Stream everything has changed  

Stream End Game

 

[Taylucifer 5,166]

Ok, but I feel like Taylor has more of a 'wow' factor. Like 

vs 

And Taylor switches up her style more when singing where as Ed is either singing or *trying* to rap

[Versace 7,981]

Except that Taylor has always been pushed into a sexist serial dater narrative yet her and Ed both write about their countless experiences in love. Taylor gets harassed by the media into name dropping, while Ed does not. Critics question if Taylor truly writes her lyrics while Ed does not. Taylor's success is questioned while Ed's isn't. Discussions arise about her weight and image during her eras while Ed remains wearing the same shirt. 

Stream The Man on iTunes 

[Ryusei 61,110]

15 minutes ago, Davian said:

Stream End Game

 

Did you mean エンド・ゲーム  

[Mana Mahad 1,749]

Taylor is miles better than Ed.