Chart Discussion

[Andreu 37,216]

Remember when we were worried Kanye's album would  overshadow ASIB, that album has still not been released

[CherryPie 1,134]

9 minutes ago, Supersonic said:

Gaga also said that her team has her eyes on social media and the fanbase at all times. Judging from Mr. S accuracy about Katy, Taylor and other releases, and the way his tea on Gaga got blown up online, she probably decided against releasing something, even though it was planned, just out of sheer spite. (I know I would, if my plans got leaked lmao).

Like... she's probably not worried about hype or lack of attention at all. She knows everybody's eyes WILL be on her because Shallow smashed that hard.

But hype won’t last forever 

[Supersonic 49,376]

1 minute ago, Andreu said:

Remember when we were worried Kanye's album would  overshadow ASIB, that album has still not been released

i didn't know he did music. i thought he had a shoeline or whatever

[Supersonic 49,376]

2 minutes ago, CherryPie said:

But hype won’t last forever 

Hers will for the next era. Proof:

[FRANZGA 13,920]

I'm still thinking they wasted the ASIB Hype 

[LGMonster95 13,704]

I'm glad that Gaga didn't release right after the Oscars, people would have said that she used A Star Is Born just to promote her music....

[sadhoe 788]

I don’t think Gaga will release anything before the Haus Labs launch 

OT: 

Lizzo is #1, #3, #14, #17, #42, and #93 on US iTunes 

[highlikegaga 9,022]

i just woke up to VMAs ratings. and i saw someone posted them here, but 1.9m is sooo bad, you guys.

i know i said i saw them doing 3m in my biggest reach, but i never imagined they'd fall below 2. (which we all saw coming tbh) 

at this point, i don't see why they keep doing it. and how they keep doing it. if it was any other show, the VMAs'd be cancelled by now. 

[asana15 16,648]

f stands for FALL.

So, 90+ days to speculate over.

 

[highlikegaga 9,022]

inb4 next year the VMAs do 0.9m 

[corvus albus 38,031]

5 minutes ago, highlikegaga said:

i just woke up to VMAs ratings. and i saw someone posted them here, but 1.9m is sooo bad, you guys.

i know i said i saw them doing 3m in my biggest reach, but i never imagined they'd fall below 2. (which we all saw coming tbh) 

at this point, i don't see why they keep doing it. and how they keep doing it. if it was any other show, the VMAs'd be cancelled by now. 

The VMA's are for people that want something from them. Falling artists want a cushion to fall on and rising artists need exposure.

Considering how many big stars were not there and weren't for so many years it's no surprise that the ratings are this low. The VMA's offer nothing but that small promo boost and most artist don't value it as important enough anymore. This cycle continues into infinity unless MTV as a whole will be canceled.

 

[corvus albus 38,031]

17 minutes ago, asana15 said:

f stands FALL.

So, 90+ days to speculate over.

Why? Receipts?

Can be next fall too

[ferretti 5,808]

1 hour ago, highlikegaga said:

i just woke up to VMAs ratings. and i saw someone posted them here, but 1.9m is sooo bad, you guys.

i know i said i saw them doing 3m in my biggest reach, but i never imagined they'd fall below 2. (which we all saw coming tbh) 

at this point, i don't see why they keep doing it. and how they keep doing it. if it was any other show, the VMAs'd be cancelled by now. 

I'm sure they want better ratings, but it's more about the cultural moment/online sharing and discussion. It makes sure people still know MTV exists and 'matters' and it provides boosts and sometimes good performances for people to digest. It's a pop event that matters even when not watched ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ .

Honestly, I think they'll move the VMAs (and maybe all award shows) to a primarily online event (still aired on MTV proper of course). If they were smart they'd partner with YouTube or Netflix. But really, they'll wait for Viacom's response to Netflix/Disney+/Amazon and steam on that. Once the VMAs are fully a streamed affair, I think they'll rise again in viewership (I doubt they'll share hard ratings one that happens).

[Hurem 17,800]

2 hours ago, Supersonic said:

and the way his tea on Gaga got blown up online, she probably decided against releasing something, even though it was planned, just out of sheer spite. (I know I would, if my plans got leaked lmao).

She doesn't have the power to delay the release of a single because an online insider leaked the release month.

[nikola 4,342]

1 hour ago, highlikegaga said:

i just woke up to VMAs ratings. and i saw someone posted them here, but 1.9m is sooo bad, you guys.

i know i said i saw them doing 3m in my biggest reach, but i never imagined they'd fall below 2. (which we all saI coming tbh) 

at this point, I don't see why they keep doing it. and how they keep doing it. if it was any other show, the VMAs'd be canceled by now. 

Problem with VMAs this day is that they don't have big names with a big fanbase that will watch the show... GP is not going to watch it... VMAs were and always will be for the fans... and when you have only people with small fanbases or people that rely only on gp.for success than of course, the ratings will be bad... The only one that was there with huge fanbase was Taylor and that's it .